From Cartesian to spherical integral

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The discussion revolves around converting a Cartesian integral to spherical coordinates, specifically focusing on the setup and limits of integration for a triple integral. The subject area includes calculus and integral calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are examining the correctness of the integral setup and the limits for the spherical coordinates. There are attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the limits for ρ, particularly in relation to visualizing the region of integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing feedback on the integral setup, questioning the cancellation of terms and the interpretation of limits. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric interpretation of the problem, with some uncertainty about the limits for ρ.

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Participants mention challenges with formatting integrals and the complexity of the problem, indicating a possible lack of familiarity with the notation and concepts involved. There is also a reference to competing academic demands that may affect participation.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution


Is this the correct setup?

[itex]\int^{\pi}_{\frac{3\pi}{4}}\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\sqrt{2}}_{0}\frac{1}{\rho^{2}} rho^2 Sin\phi d\rho d\theta d\phi[/itex]

I gave up on itex. It was either that or my computer flying out the window. My apologies.
 
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You came up with:
$$\int_{3\pi/4}^\pi \int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^{\sqrt{2}}\frac{\sin\phi\;\text{d}\rho \text{d} \theta \text{d}\phi}
{\rho^2}$$
(use the quote button on this post to see how I did that ;) )

Please show your working.
 
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God, that looks complicated. I'll dedicate some time to actually learning how to write those integrals as nicely as you do after this week. I'm drowning in chemistry and math right now and haven't got a second to spare to learn itex right now :).

What I did was I drew a picture and then basically looked at it.
The limits for theta are obvious. The phi I got from setting x=0 on the upper limit and getting z=-x in the zy plane, this is 45 degree line, it's negative so 3pi / 4.

As for the rho limits, that's where I get less sure of what I'm doing.

I think that what I'm looking for is an ice cream cone-shape. Therefore the rho starts from 0 and ... Oh no wait I think I see it now. If I set the z-limits equal to each other I get the intercept which is r=1.
So then rho would go from 0 to 1. Correct?
 
Feodalherren said:

Homework Statement


coords.png



Homework Equations



[itex][/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Is this the correct setup?

[itex]\int^{\pi}_{\frac{3\pi}{4}}\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\sqrt{2}}_{0}\frac{1}{\rho^{2}} rho^2 Sin\phi d\rho d\theta d\phi[/itex]

I gave up on itex. It was either that or my computer flying out the window. My apologies.

That is correct except why not cancel the ##\rho^2## factors?


Feodalherren said:
As for the rho limits, that's where I get less sure of what I'm doing.

I think that what I'm looking for is an ice cream cone-shape. Therefore the rho starts from 0 and ... Oh no wait I think I see it now. If I set the z-limits equal to each other I get the intercept which is r=1.
So then rho would go from 0 to 1. Correct?

No, ##\rho## isn't the same as ##r##. Your original limits are correct.
 
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