Gauss' Law and magnitude of the electric field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field at specific radial distances from a long, nonconducting cylinder with a nonuniform charge density defined by ρ = A r². For a distance of 3.5 cm, the correct approach involves integrating the charge density to find the enclosed charge, leading to an electric field of approximately 3.6 N/C. At a distance of 5.5 cm, the enclosed charge is calculated similarly, resulting in an electric field of approximately 6.3 N/C. The initial calculations were incorrect due to not properly accounting for the variable charge density. The final results for both distances are confirmed as accurate.
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A long, nonconducting, solid cylinder of radius 4.5 cm has a nonuniform volume charge density that is a function of the radial distance r from the axis of the cylinder, as given by \rho = A r^2, with A = 3.0 \mbox{ }\mu C/\mbox{m}^5.

(a) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 3.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}

Let a = 3.5 cm. Then:

E\left( 2\pi a L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho a}{2\epsilon _0} = \frac{Aa^ 3}{2\epsilon _0} \approx 7.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}

This is wrong, but I don't know where.

(b) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 5.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

Let b = 5.5 cm. Then:

\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}

E\left( 2\pi b L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi R^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho R^2}{2b\epsilon _0} = \frac{AR^ 4}{2b\epsilon _0} \approx 1.3 \times 10 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}

This is wrong, but I don't know where.

Any help is highly appreciated
 
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Dear thiago_j

I think the way you apply Gauss' Law in general is correct. The one thing that is wrong for sure is your calculation of the enclosed charge.
As you mentioned the charge density is a function of the radius. In your calculations you ignore this. You just take the volume (with radius a) and act as if the whole cylinder had the density it has at radius a, which is not the case (as you stated).
So, in order to calculate the charge enclosed you need to integrate!
Some hints on how to do this: In general, proceed as you always do with integration. Take a certain radius r, calculate the volume of the hollow cylinder with radii r and r+dr and calculate the charge on this infinitesimal hollow cylinder. Then do the integration over the whole volume needed.

I hope it was useful.
Best regards...Cliowa
 
thiago_j said:
E\left( 2\pi a L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho a}{2\epsilon _0} = \frac{Aa^ 3}{2\epsilon _0} \approx 7.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}

Q_{\mbox{Enc}} is not \rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)

it is

\int_0^r \ ( Ar^2 )2 \pi r dr L
 
How about now?

(a) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 3.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}

Let a = 3.5 cm. Then:

{Q_{\mbox{Enc}} = \int _0 ^a \left( Ar^2 \right) 2\pi r L \: dr = 2\pi LA \int _0 ^a r^3 \: dr = \frac{\pi LA a^ 4}{2}

and so

E\left( 2\pi a L \right)= \frac{\pi LA a^ 4}{2\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{A a^3}{4\epsilon _0} \approx 3.6 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}

(b) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 5.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}

Let b = 5.5 cm and R = 4.5 cm. Then:

{Q_{\mbox{Enc}} = \int _0 ^R \left( Ar^2 \right) 2\pi r L \: dr = 2\pi LA \int _0 ^R r^3 \: dr = \frac{\pi LA R^ 4}{2}

and so

E\left( 2\pi b L \right)= \frac{\pi LA R^ 4}{2\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{A R^4}{4b\epsilon _0} \approx 6.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}
 
Appears correct.
 
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