Given potential, ask plane charge distribution

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The problem involves determining the charge distribution on the xy-plane given a specific electric potential above the plane, expressed as \(\phi = \phi_0 \exp(-kz) \cos(kx)\). The relationship between the electric field and potential is also considered.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the electric field components and the potential, questioning how a charge distribution could yield the observed potential terms. There is exploration of the implications of periodicity in the potential and its effect on charge distribution.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the charge distribution, suggesting that a non-uniform distribution might be necessary to account for the exponential decay in the electric field. Others are exploring the implications of the potential's periodicity and questioning the assumptions about uniform charge distribution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific textbook problem, indicating that the context is rooted in classical electromagnetism. Participants are considering the effects of charge distribution on the electric field, particularly near the xy-plane and the implications of charge distribution being finite or non-uniform.

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Homework Statement



All charges in space are distributed on the xy-plane. The potential above the plane is known as
\phi = \phi_0 exp(-kz) cos(kx)

What's the charge distribution on xy-plane?

Homework Equations



\vec E =- grad(\phi)

The Attempt at a Solution



Applying the relationship between \vec E and \phi, I have found:

E_x = k \phi_0 exp(-kz) sin(kx)
E_z = k \phi_0 exp(-kz) cos(kx)

I know that a charge distribution \sigma_z = \frac{E_z}{2\pi} would produce E_z. But how about E_x?
I am thinking of a superposition of \sigma_z and \sigma_x to produce \vec E. So the question now is to find \sigma_x: what kind of charge distribution on the plane would produce E_x = k \phi_0 exp(-kz) sin(kx)?
 
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I don't see how a constant charge density would lead to the cosine term (or even the exponential).

Your potential is periodic in x and does not depend on y, what do you expect for the charge distribution?
Does this problem appear in the context of Fourier transformations?
 
mfb said:
I don't see how a constant charge density would lead to the cosine term (or even the exponential).

Your potential is periodic in x and does not depend on y, what do you expect for the charge distribution?
Does this problem appear in the context of Fourier transformations?

No, the problem is not appeared in the context of Fourier transformation. It is the problem 31(c) from Chapter 2: Electric Potential of Purcell 2ed E&M textbook. Purcell asks us to describe the charge distribution on the non-conducting flat sheet.

I neither see how a charge distribution would lead to an exponential decay along the z-axis. But what if the charge is not uniformly distributed in the plane? Specifically, let the charge only distributed on a finite circle, then the electric field at least decay along the z-axis. My reason is: in the very far, we could treat this circle as a point charge, so the electric field it produce would decay.

If we temporary don't care the electrical field far away and focus only on the location very near to the xy-plane, in that case, z approaches to zero, E_z = kϕ_0cos(kx). I can find a charge distribution \sigma_z = \frac{E_z}{2\pi} = \frac{kϕ_0}{2\pi}cos(kx) to produce E_z, at least when z is very small. But I have no idea how to find \sigma_x to produce E_x. Do you have any suggestion. A qualitative approach is welcome.
 
Tekk said:
so the electric field it produce would decay.
But not exponentially.
The approach with very small z could work. Can you calculate Ez for all z based on this charge distribution?

I think if one fits, the other one will fit as well, so I would not worry about Ex for now.
 

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