Going Crazy: Solving an Isobaric Process Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving an isobaric process problem involving an ideal gas compressed at a constant pressure of 2.0 atm. The heat lost during this process is stated as 3.53E3 J, leading to confusion about the calculations for work and internal energy. The correct approach involves recognizing that work done on the gas is positive, while heat lost is negative. After recalculating, the final internal energy is determined to be -1930 J. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the signs for heat and work in thermodynamic equations.
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This problem is going to make me go crazy...

4. In the figure below, an ideal gas is slowly compressed at a constant pressure of 2.0 atm from 10.0 L to 2.0 L. This process is represented as the path B to D. In this process, some heat flows out and the temperature drops. If the heat lost from the gas in the process BD is 3.53E3 J, what is the change in internal energy of the gas?

Ok... all i have so far is since the pressure remains constant, it's an isobaric process. Therefore i have to calculate work.
W=(2E5)(.01-.002)
W=1600 J Now is it positive or negative?
Then i know next step is the change in internal energy
U=Q-W
Since the heat is lost from the gas is it negative 3.53E3?
U=(3.53E3)-(-1600)
Now i do not get the right answer... someone please explain why? thanks.
 
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1atm = 101.325 kPa,

not 2E5.

Does your book say 5.1512KJ?
 
HEAT LOST from the GAS is Negative
HEAT SUPPLIED To the gas is POSITIVE
Work Done on the Gas is POSITIVE(Means Compress gas)
Work done by the gas is NEGATIVE(Means Expand Gas)

Internal Energy = Work DOne + Heat
Internal Energy = Kinetic Enery + Potential energy

Hope this helps
 
My equation sheet says 1atm=1E5 Pa, so since i had 2 atm its therefore 2E5. But anyway i figured it out.
W=(2E5)(.002-.01)
W= -1600
Then the internal energy equation
U=-(3.53E3)-(-1600)
U=-1930J
Now i did get this right on my webassign but i kinda have the understanding of why the Q was negative so was the W. Ah w/e teacher hasnt taught us this... I am just trying to get ahead.
 
I would redo your caculation, it is incorrect.
 
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