Grade 11 Heat Capacity question

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The discussion revolves around a heat transfer problem involving a lead shot and water in an ideal calorimeter. The original poster presents a scenario where a 0.20 kg lead shot heated to 90 degrees Celsius is dropped into 0.50 kg of water at 20 degrees Celsius, seeking to find the final equilibrium temperature. The specific heat capacities of lead and water are provided, along with relevant equations for heat transfer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the heat transfer equation, questioning how to correctly set up the equation for heat lost by the lead and heat gained by the water. There is confusion regarding the temperature difference and its representation in the equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications on the setup of the equation, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the correct signs for temperature differences. There is an acknowledgment of the need to rearrange the equation to isolate the final temperature, with suggestions to expand and collect like terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with units and the potential for confusion when substituting values into the equation. The original poster expresses a time constraint, which may affect their approach to solving the problem.

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Homework Statement



a 0.20kg lead shot is heated to 90 degrees celsius and dropped into an ideal calorimeter containing 0.50kg of water initially at 20 degrees celsius. What is the final equilibrium temperature of the lead shot? The specific heat capacity of lead is 128 Joules/(kg degrees celsius) and the specific heat capacity of water is 4186Joules/(kg degrees Celsius)

Ml = 0.20
Cl = 128
Til = 90

Mw = 0.50
Cw = 4186
Tiw = 20

Homework Equations



Q= mass x heat capacity x difference in temperature

Qabsorbed + Qreleased = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



0.20 x 128 x (T2 - 90) + 0.50 x 4186 x(T2 - 20)

25.6 x (t2 -90) + 2093 x (T2-20)

I am completely stuck after this. I don't know what to do with the difference in temperature part. I've looked at example equations and it shows the temperature given getting transformed into joules? So in this equation the 90 and 20 would be replaced by different numbers with the unit Joules after. I don't understand why this is happening. Thank you for any help and I appreciate you taking the time to read this.

This may not be very clear, so if I need to explain more please let me know
 
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Confuzed_one said:

Homework Statement



a 0.20kg lead shot is heated to 90 degrees celsius and dropped into an ideal calorimeter containing 0.50kg of water initially at 20 degrees celsius. What is the final equilibrium temperature of the lead shot? The specific heat capacity of lead is 128 Joules/(kg degrees celsius) and the specific heat capacity of water is 4186Joules/(kg degrees Celsius)

Ml = 0.20
Cl = 128
Til = 90

Mw = 0.50
Cw = 4186
Tiw = 20



Homework Equations



Q= mass x heat capacity x difference in temperature

Qabsorbed + Qreleased = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



0.20 x 128 x (T2 - 90) + 0.50 x 4186 x(T2 - 20)

25.6 x (t2 -90) + 2093 x (T2-20)

I am completely stuck after this. I don't know what to do with the difference in temperature part. I've looked at example equations and it shows the temperature given getting transformed into joules? So in this equation the 90 and 20 would be replaced by different numbers with the unit Joules after. I don't understand why this is happening. Thank you for any help and I appreciate you taking the time to read this.

This may not be very clear, so if I need to explain more please let me know

Make an equation out of it as in your Relevant Equations section. Solve for T2.

When units (Joules, °C, etc.) get confusing, take your equation and substitute each item with its corresponding units. Check how the units cancel and combine. They should all 'harmonize' to produce the expected units that are on the other side of the equation.
 
I tried rearranging it to solve for T2, but I'm definitely doing something wrong.

0.20 x 128 x (t2 - 90)

-T2 = 0.20 x 128 - 90

-t2 = 25.6 - 90

-t2 = -64.4

T2 = 64.4

This is one of those multiple choice answer things, and this isn't an option sadly. I understand the whole unit thing, I'm just pressed for time and trying to shorten it. I really appreciate the help thank you

EDIT: I realized i should factor this, so I did it and I got the correct answer of 20.8 degrees celsius. I know this is kind of random and I am not explaining myself, but you really helped and I got the right answer. Thank you very much, you have no idea how much i appreciate it
 
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May I offer a little clarification at the beginning?
Heat lost by lead = heat gained by water
mC*ΔT = MC*ΔT
0.2*128*(90-T2) = .5*4186*(T2-20)
This differs from your solution in that there is an equals sign in the middle
and your (T2-90) is replaced by (90-T2). (T2-90) would be a negative number, leading to all sorts of trouble!

Next step is to expand both sides out so you only T2 terms and numerical terms.
Collect like terms and solve for T2.
Keep the = sign in every line!
 

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