Gravitational Forces between planets/objects

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The discussion revolves around calculating the altitude above the surface of planet X where the weight of an object equals its weight on the surface of Earth. The problem involves gravitational forces and requires understanding the relationship between gravitational acceleration, mass, and distance from the center of a planet.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate gravitational equations to find the altitude, expressing uncertainty about how to connect the variables involved. Some participants question the necessity of knowing the mass of planet X and explore whether there are alternative methods to solve the problem.

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Participants have engaged in exploring the equations and have provided hints and partial calculations. There is a recognition of the complexity involved, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented.

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The original poster expresses frustration over a lack of support in understanding the problem, indicating that they have sought additional help without resolution. There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions necessary for solving the problem, particularly regarding the mass of planet X.

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Homework Statement


The gravitational acceleration at the surface of planet X is 12.0 m/s2, and the radius of the planet is 67,400 km. The altitude above the surface of planet X, at which the weight of a body is equal to that on the surface of the Earth, in km, is closest to what value ?




Homework Equations



W(weight of object at the Earth surface)=(G*m_1*m_2)/r^2
m_1--- the mass of the object
m_2----- the mass of the Earth

W(weight of the object above the planet X)=(G*m_1*m_3)/(r+h)^2
m_3 ----the mass of the planet X
m_1----the mass of the object

Looking for h----the altitude at which the object weights the same as at the surface of the Earth;


The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure which equations to use or how to relate the correct equations to each other;but:

W(of the object at the Earth's surface)= 9.8*m_1
W(of the object at the X planet's surface)= 12*m_1

Possibly substitute 12*m_1 into W=(G*m_1*m_3)/(r+h)^2
Then m_1 will cancel out; but have two unknowns left: m_3 and h...not sure how to go from here. Please help.
 
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Hint: [tex]G\dfrac{m_1 m_2}{r^{2}} = m_2 g[/tex] is what is used to caluclate the approximation [tex]F=mg[/tex] at earth.
 
I understand the formula, but what do I need it for?
m_1 wil cancel out if I set both equations equal to each other. But I still need m_3 inorder to find h. Please help.

I went to the tutoring center in my college, and even they were not able to help me solve this problem( after being there for 2 hours :( )

How do I ( if I can at all) figure out the mass of the planet X? Or maybe there is another way to go around it, and I just do not see it. Not sure. Really need help.
 
here is what I came up with:

1. a=g=12=(G*m_3)/r^2

m_3(mass of the planet X)= 8.17e26 kg

2. Then:
W(weight of the object above the planet X)=(G*m_1*m_3)/(r+h)^2

9.8*m_1=W=(G*m_1*m_3)/(r+h)^2...where m_1 cancels out, and we are left with following:

9.8=(G*m_3)/(r+h)^2
9.8=[(6.67*10^(-11))*8.17e26 kg]/[67400000m+ h]^2 ... solvinf gor h:
7.46e7=67400000+h
h= 7.2e6 m or 7200 km...is it correct? Please let me know, and if it...then thank you very much for your help :)
 
This was exactly what i was hinting for :) Good work!
 

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