Gravity: Is it Spacetime or Mater-Dependent?

In summary, the conversation discusses the source of gravitational effects in General Relativity and whether or not gravity has always existed or emerged at some point. The speaker explains that the stress-energy tensor is the source of gravitational effects and it does not necessarily require the presence of matter. They also clarify that the theory of General Relativity does not describe a beginning or change in the rules of gravity, suggesting that it has existed since shortly after the big bang. The concept of emergence is also briefly mentioned, but the conversation ends without a definitive answer to the question.
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Do you have to have mater for the gravity field,or is gravity a thing that has all ways been.
 
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wolram said:
Do you have to have mater for the gravity field
In General Relativity, the stress-energy tensor (which includes energy and momentum) is the source of gravitational effects. This does not require that the energy is in the form of matter.
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or is gravity a thing that has all ways been.
I'm not quite sure what you are asking there. The gravitational effect of some amount of energy around a given location is similar regardless of its form, so there's no change when a given amount of radiation energy is converted to or from the corresponding amount of matter.
 
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I guess what i am trying to say is, was gravity emergent, or has it all ways been or how it came to be,for if-there was no pre existing gravitational field, all we would have is a cloud of gas
 
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General relativity doesn't describe any "beginning" to gravity or any change in its rules, so according to GR it has been there at least since very shortly after the big bang (at the end of the inflation phase).

The word "emergent" when applied to scientific properties usually refers not to a point in time but rather to higher-level phenomena which arise from simpler systems but which cannot usefully be described in terms of the components.
 
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was gravity emergent, or has it all ways been or how it came to be

We don't know. Thread closed.
 

Related to Gravity: Is it Spacetime or Mater-Dependent?

1. What is the current understanding of gravity?

The current understanding of gravity is based on Einstein's theory of General Relativity, which states that gravity is not a force between masses, but rather a curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of mass and energy.

2. Is gravity dependent on the presence of matter?

Yes, according to General Relativity, gravity is dependent on the presence of matter and energy. The more mass and energy an object has, the stronger its gravitational pull.

3. How does General Relativity explain the effect of gravity on spacetime?

General Relativity explains that mass and energy cause spacetime to curve, and objects with mass will follow the curvature of spacetime, resulting in what we perceive as gravity.

4. Are there any other theories that explain gravity differently?

Yes, there are other theories such as Newton's theory of gravity, which explains gravity as a force between masses. There are also theories that attempt to reconcile General Relativity with quantum mechanics, such as string theory and loop quantum gravity.

5. Is there any evidence to support the idea of gravity as spacetime curvature?

Yes, there is strong evidence to support General Relativity's explanation of gravity. For example, the bending of light around massive objects, known as gravitational lensing, has been observed and can only be explained by the curvature of spacetime. Additionally, the predictions of General Relativity have been confirmed through numerous experiments and observations.

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