Greens functions and density of states

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between Green's functions and the density of states in non-interacting systems. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and implications of the spectral function, particularly in the context of eigenbases of Hamiltonians.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to prove that the spectral function \( A(\nu, \omega) = 2\pi \delta(\omega-\varepsilon_\nu) \) holds in the eigenbasis of a non-interacting system.
  • Another participant suggests that the imaginary part of the retarded Green's function is related to the density of states and seeks clarification on how this relationship is established.
  • A different viewpoint posits that Green's functions do not depend on a specific basis, raising questions about the role of the eigenbasis in the discussion.
  • One participant references a book by Mattuck, indicating that it provides insights into deriving the density of states from the spectral function for a free non-interacting electron gas.
  • Concerns are raised about the differences in Green's functions in real-space and momentum-space, questioning the assertion that they are basis-independent.
  • There is a suggestion to sum over all momentum to derive the density of states from the single-particle propagator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the eigenbasis in the context of Green's functions, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the discussion involves assumptions about the nature of Green's functions and their dependence on the chosen basis, which may not be universally applicable.

Niles
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Hi guys

I found this on Google Books: http://books.google.dk/books?id=v5v...resnum=5&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Here they say that whenever we write the Hamiltonian for a non-interacting system in its eigenbasis, then we have that

<br /> A(\nu, \omega) = 2\pi \delta(\omega-\varepsilon_\nu).<br />

How can this statement be proven? Do you have any hints for this?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.Niles.
 
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Ok, perhaps I should reformulate my question: I keep reading that the imaginary part of the retarded Greens function is the density of states, and I am quite sure it has got something to do with

<br /> <br /> A(\nu, \omega) = 2\pi \delta(\omega-\varepsilon_\nu).<br /> <br />

since if we sum over ν we get something proportional to the density of states on the RHS. SO I guess my question is: How do we show that in the eigenbasis of the Hamiltonian for a non-interacting system, the imaginary part of the Green's function is equal to the density of states?
 
I don't know where the eigenbasis should enter as the Greensfunctions do not depend on a basis. But for a free particle, the greens function is basically \sum (\omega - \epsilon_\nu)^{-1}. Now using 1/x=P(1/x)+2\pi i \delta (x) where P stands for taking the principal value, you should be able to derive your formula.
 
Niles said:
Hi guys

I found this on Google Books: http://books.google.dk/books?id=v5v...resnum=5&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Here they say that whenever we write the Hamiltonian for a non-interacting system in its eigenbasis, then we have that

<br /> A(\nu, \omega) = 2\pi \delta(\omega-\varepsilon_\nu).<br />

How can this statement be proven? Do you have any hints for this?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Niles.

You need to consider this as the spectral function of the single-particle propagator. To get the density of states, you sum up over all momentum. So you show that the result of the DOS matches the density of states for a free non-interacting electron gas.

Mattuck actually did this in his book "A Guide to Feynman Diagrams in the Many-Body Problem" for this very case. It is a Dover book, so it's cheap. It is also extremely useful.

Zz.
 
DrDu said:
I don't know where the eigenbasis should enter as the Greensfunctions do not depend on a basis. But for a free particle, the greens function is basically \sum (\omega - \epsilon_\nu)^{-1}. Now using 1/x=P(1/x)+2\pi i \delta (x) where P stands for taking the principal value, you should be able to derive your formula.

In my book the Greens functions in real-space and momentum-space look different; so how it is that they cannot depend on the chosen basis?

ZapperZ said:
You need to consider this as the spectral function of the single-particle propagator. To get the density of states, you sum up over all momentum. So you show that the result of the DOS matches the density of states for a free non-interacting electron gas.

The point is that in the book they only do it in momentum-space, and add as a side-note that "this in fact is true for all non-interacting fermions in any bases you like" - that is the statement I think needs more explanation.
 

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