Having trouble using the ideal gas law for this problem.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of gas molecules in 1 cm^3 at a pressure of 1 * 10^-8 torr and a temperature of 371 K using the ideal gas law. Initial attempts to convert pressure from torr to atm and volume from cm^3 to liters led to incorrect results. Participants emphasized the importance of using consistent units, suggesting conversions to Pascals and cubic meters for accuracy. A detailed calculation provided a correct approach, yielding approximately 4.31 x 10^-16 moles, which can be converted to molecules for the final answer. Accurate unit conversion and careful application of the ideal gas law are crucial for solving such problems.
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Homework Statement



A pressure as low as 1 * 10^-8 torr can be achieved using an oil diffusion pump. How many molecules are there in 1 cm^3 of a gas at this pressure if its temperature is 371 K?

Homework Equations



PV = nRT = NkT

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 1*10^-8 torr to atm and got 1.31578947 * 10^-11 atm. Then, I converted 1 cm^3 to liters and got .001L. Then, I plugged all known variables into the ideal gas law. When doing PV = nRT, I got n in molecules to be 2568782.388. This was incorrect. I then tried PV = NkT, and N was also incorrect. Where did I go wrong?
 
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lilmul123 said:

Homework Statement



A pressure as low as 1 * 10^-8 torr can be achieved using an oil diffusion pump. How many molecules are there in 1 cm^3 of a gas at this pressure if its temperature is 371 K?


Homework Equations



PV = nRT = NkT


The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 1*10^-8 torr to atm and got 1.31578947 * 10^-11 atm. Then, I converted 1 cm^3 to liters and got .001L. Then, I plugged all known variables into the ideal gas law. When doing PV = nRT, I got n in molecules to be 2568782.388. This was incorrect. I then tried PV = NkT, and N was also incorrect. Where did I go wrong?
Your units are mixed up. Atmospheres are not MKS units. Convert torr to Pascals instead (Newtons/m^2)

AM
 
Are liters correct then? Or should that be in m^3? I converted torr to pascals, and found the molecules to be 2.602914125*10^11, which is still incorrect.
 
lets see what I get using torrs/atm

volume at stp = 1ml(10^-8/760)*273/371=9.78 x 10-12 ml.

Converting to liters and dividing by 22.4 L/mole I get 4.27 x 10^-16 moles. Multiplying by A's number: 262,837,500 which should be rounded to 2.63 x 10^8. Seems like your answer is off by 1000--maybe liter m^3 conversion?
 
lilmul123 said:
Are liters correct then? Or should that be in m^3? I converted torr to pascals, and found the molecules to be 2.602914125*10^11, which is still incorrect.
It is rather difficult to determine where you went wrong if you do not show us your detailed calculations.

n=PV/RT where P = 10^{-8} Torr = 1.33 \times 10^{-6} Pa and V = 10^{-6} m^3

n = \frac{1.33 \times 10^{-6} \times 10^{-6}}{8.3145 \times 371} = \frac{1.33 \times 10^{-12}}{3.085 \times 10^3} = 4.31 \times 10^{-16} moles

Convert the moles to molecules and that is your answer.

AM
 
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