Help with a simple algebra problem

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The discussion revolves around solving the algebraic equation t / (2t - s) = 3s for the variable t. Participants are examining their steps and comparing their derived solutions with a given answer, focusing on the correct interpretation of mathematical expressions and the use of parentheses.

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  • One participant presents their solution steps leading to t = -3s^2 / (1 - 6s) and questions where they went wrong.
  • Another participant points out a sign error in the original steps and suggests that the expressions should be clarified with parentheses.
  • A third participant emphasizes the importance of using parentheses in mathematical expressions to avoid misinterpretation.
  • One participant asserts that the two derived answers are actually the same, suggesting a potential misunderstanding in the interpretation of the expressions.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of the derived answers and the interpretation of the mathematical expressions. There is no consensus on the resolution of the problem, and multiple interpretations remain present.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings due to the lack of parentheses in the expressions, which may lead to different interpretations of the algebraic steps.

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Hi

I'm trying to solve;
t / 2t-s = 3s
for t
the answer I get is; t = -3s^2/1-6s. However, the answer given is; 3s^2/6s-1

The steps I use are;
t = 3s(2t - s)
t = 6st - 3s^2
t - 6st = -3s^2
t(1 - 6s) = -3s^2
t = 3s^2 / 1 - 6s

If someone could point out where I'm going wrong that would be great, thank you.
 
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MartinJH said:
Hi

I'm trying to solve;
t / 2t-s = 3s
for t
the answer I get is; t = -3s^2/1-6s. However, the answer given is; 3s^2/6s-1

The steps I use are;
t = 3s(2t - s)
t = 6st - 3s^2
t - 6st = -3s^2
t(1 - 6s) = -3s^2
Here. You switched the sign on the right but not on the left.
t = 3s^2 / 1 - 6s

If someone could point out where I'm going wrong that would be great, thank you.
 
MartinJH said:
I'm trying to solve;
t / 2t-s = 3s
for t
the answer I get is; t = -3s^2/1-6s. However, the answer given is; 3s^2/6s-1
Use parentheses! When you write mathematical expressions on a single line, and have fractions with numerators or denominators that have multiple terms, you absolutely need to use parentheses.

Textbooks can have things like ##\frac t {2t - s}##, where it's clear which terms are in the denominator, but when you write t/2t - s, it really means ##\frac t 2 t - s##, which is probably not what you meant.
Also, what you wrote as 3s^2/1 - 6s would reasonably be interpreted to mean ##3\frac {s^2} 1 - 6s.

I used LaTeX for format the two expressions. If you don't use LaTeX (we have a very good tutorial here -- https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/), the equation you started with should be written as t/(2t - s) = 3s, and the solution you got should be written as t = 3s^2/(1 - 6s).
 
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MartinJH said:
Hi

I'm trying to solve;
t / 2t-s = 3s
for t
the answer I get is; t = -3s^2/1-6s. However, the answer given is; 3s^2/6s-1

If someone could point out where I'm going wrong that would be great, thank you.

Those are the same answer.
 
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