Help with Inclinded Plane Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an inclined plane and the conditions under which a block begins to slide. The original poster is trying to determine the angle at which a 5 kg block will start sliding, given a static friction coefficient of 0.4.

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  • The original poster attempts to use trigonometry to relate the static friction coefficient to the angle of inclination, leading to a calculated angle of approximately 22 degrees. Some participants question the relevance of the block's weight in this scenario, suggesting that the angle remains constant regardless of mass.

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Participants are exploring the relationship between static friction and the angle of inclination, with some expressing confusion about the role of mass in the calculations. There is a mix of agreement and questioning regarding the original poster's approach and conclusions.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their solution and the implications of the static friction coefficient, indicating a need for further clarification on the underlying principles.

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Hello Everyone!

Homework Statement



I'm having trouble with this problem. I'm sapose to figure out at what angle a 5 kg block beings to slide with a static coefficient of 0.4.

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b

So far I've been working it out through trigonometry and I've gotten that ... mu = mgcos(theta)/mgsin(theta) = cos/sin = tan(theta)

therefore that 0.4 =tan(theta)
(theta) = tan^-1(0.4)
(theta) = 21.8 degrees

so the box would slide at roughly 22 degrees.

I must of done something wrong but seems to make sense to me, theirs got to be more to it than this. can anyone help?
 
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Looks good to me. I agree with your answer.
 
Really? I just can't seem to understand why the weight of the block is irrelavent. The fact that the staic friction is 0.4 would mean that the angle at which something slides on a plane with always be 22 degrees, like if it were 10 kg or 15kj, would the angle always be 22? I just can't wrap my head around it.
 
buttretler said:
Really? I just can't seem to understand why the weight of the block is irrelavent. The fact that the staic friction is 0.4 would mean that the angle at which something slides on a plane with always be 22 degrees, like if it were 10 kg or 15kj, would the angle always be 22?
Yep. The mass is irrelevant.
I just can't wrap my head around it.
You are balancing the gravitational force acting down the plane with the maximum static friction acting up the plane. Since both are proportional to the mass, the mass doesn't matter.
 

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