Engineering Help with Step Response of an RC circuit

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The discussion focuses on deriving the voltage and current equations for the step response of an RC circuit, specifically using a current source in parallel with a resistor and capacitor. The participant initially applies Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to set up the equations but becomes confused about the notation for the source current, i(s). Clarifications are provided regarding the use of a current source versus a voltage source, with suggestions to represent the source current as Is. The conversation emphasizes solving the differential equation for Vc(t) by substituting assumed solutions and differentiating to verify correctness. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of analyzing non-traditional RC circuit configurations.
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Homework Statement


Derive the Voltage and Current equations for Step Response of an RC circuit.


Homework Equations


End products will be Vc(t) = i(s)R + (Vo - i(s)R)e^(-t/RC) and i(t) = (Is - (Vo/R))e^(-t/RC)


The Attempt at a Solution


Using KCL on a hypotetical RC circuit with a current source in parallel with a resistor, which is parallel to a capacitor, I end up with i(R)+i(c)=i(s) which converts to (V(c)/R) + C(dv/dt) = i(s). After rearranging I get (V(c)/RC) + (d(v)/d(t)) = (i(s)/C) then (d(v)/d(t)) = (i(s)/C) - (V(c)/RC). I am now stumped as to how to procede. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks!
 
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stau40 said:

Homework Statement


Derive the Voltage and Current equations for Step Response of an RC circuit.


Homework Equations


End products will be Vc(t) = i(s)R + (Vo - i(s)R)e^(-t/RC) and i(t) = (Is - (Vo/R))e^(-t/RC)


The Attempt at a Solution


Using KCL on a hypotetical RC circuit with a current source in parallel with a resistor, which is parallel to a capacitor, I end up with i(R)+i(c)=i(s) which converts to (V(c)/R) + C(dv/dt) = i(s). After rearranging I get (V(c)/RC) + (d(v)/d(t)) = (i(s)/C) then (d(v)/d(t)) = (i(s)/C) - (V(c)/RC). I am now stumped as to how to procede. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks!

What's i(s)?

I don't think you need to include any source resistance in the problem (if you use a voltage source to drive the RC with the voltage step input). Does the problem tell you to use a current source as the excitation?
 
The problem doesn't say to use it, but our teacher started us off using a current source in the circuit rather then a voltage source so I continued to use thru the calculations.
 
But what is i(s)? The source current Is, or some current that is a function of the complex frequency s?
 
I(s) is the source current.
 
stau40 said:
I(s) is the source current.

Ok, then you sould probably write it as Is or I_s

Putting parens around it like that makes it look like "I as a function of s".

Anyway, I just re-read your first post, and you are saying that this is a parallel RC? Sorry, I'm confused now. Could you maybe post a sketch?

Using KCL on a hypotetical RC circuit with a current source in parallel with a resistor, which is parallel to a capacitor,

Usually the RC circuit would be a series RC circuit, driven by a step source.
 
I have attached a copy of my work including a picture of the circuit. I have been trying different methods so a good part of the attached isn't relevent.
 

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stau40 said:
I have attached a copy of my work including a picture of the circuit. I have been trying different methods so a good part of the attached isn't relevent.

Okay. That's not the traditional RC circuit, but whatever. If that's what you are asked to solve for, then ok.

Your first equation is correct:

\frac{V_c(t)}{R} + C \frac{dV_c(t)}{dt} = I_s

That is a differential equation for Vc(t). To solve it, you assume a solution for Vc(t), and then differentiate that solution to get dVc(t)/dt. Plug those back into the differential equation, and solve for any constants or unknowns.

Since you were given the solution for Vc(t), go ahead and differentiate it, and plug all of that into the differential equation to show that it is a solution.
 
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