Helping setting up Nodal Equations

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The discussion revolves around setting up nodal equations to find node voltages in a circuit. The original poster seeks assistance with applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) at nodes N1 and N2.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of KCL equations for each node, with variations in sign conventions and perspectives on writing the equations. There is also a consideration of how to solve the resulting equations involving two unknowns.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's equations and discussing different approaches to solving the equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but constructive suggestions have been made regarding the setup and potential methods for solving the equations.

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Some participants express uncertainty about sign conventions in the equations, indicating a need for clarification on this aspect. The discussion is framed within the constraints of homework rules, focusing on the setup rather than providing direct solutions.

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Helping setting up Nodal Equations...

Homework Statement



I need to find the node voltages at N1 and N2. See attachment for circuit.


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I think I need to setup KCL at each node. At Node 1, I got this:

(v1-v2)/12 - (v3-v2)/20 - (v2-0)/40 =0

v1 is the source voltage, and v3 is the voltage at node 2. Is this correct thus far?
 

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Yes, you are correct so far. However, I personally like to write the KCL equations from the perspective of the node in question, showing that the sum of the currents out of the node is zero. So I would have written your first equation like this instead.

(v2-v1)/12 + (v3-v2)/20 + (v2-0)/40 =0

It's a matter of personal preference, I guess, but thinking about the KCL equations in this way helps me to keep them straight in my head.
 
Cool.. thanks. And the equation at Node 2 should look something like:

(v2-v3)/20 - (0-v3)/60 = 0

Plug in v2 from previous equation, solve for v3, and then plug v3 back into first equation?
 
bengaltiger14 said:
Cool.. thanks. And the equation at Node 2 should look something like:

(v2-v3)/20 - (0-v3)/60 = 0

Plug in v2 from previous equation, solve for v3, and then plug v3 back into first equation?

I still have trouble with your sign conventions, but I think that is correct.
 
Any suggestions on solving these equations?
 
bengaltiger14 said:
Any suggestions on solving these equations?

You have two unknowns and two equations. You can either set up the equations so that you can add them to eliminate one of the unknowns, or you can use the determinant math trick to solve them.
 

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