Hockey Puck- Physics Friction Problem

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A 0.170 kg hockey puck moving at 21.2 m/s experiences kinetic friction with a coefficient of 0.005, resulting in a speed of 21.1 m/s after traveling 58.5 m. When the coefficient of friction increases to 0.047, the puck's distance traveled is calculated to be approximately 6.24 m. The calculations involve using the net force and acceleration equations, with some confusion noted regarding the correct coefficient of friction. A participant suggests that since the new friction coefficient is nearly ten times greater, the puck will travel about one-tenth the distance of the initial scenario. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying physics formulas to solve motion problems.
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Homework Statement


A 0.170 kg hockey puck is initially moving at 21.2 m/s [W] along the ice. The coefficient
of kinetic friction for the puck and the ice is 0.005.

(a) What is the speed of the puck after traveling 58.5 m? ans: 21.1 m/s
(b) After being played on for a while, the ice becomes rougher and the coefficient of
kinetic friction increases to 0.047. How far will the puck travel if its initial and final
speeds are the same as before?

Homework Equations


Fnet=ma
Fg=mg
Fk=μk.Fn
Vf^{2}=Vi^{2}+2ad

The Attempt at a Solution


a.) Fnet=Fk
ma=μk.Fn
ma=μk.mg
a=\frac{(0.05)(0.170kg)(9.8m/s^{2})}{0.170kg}
=0.049m/s^{2}

Vf^{2}=Vi^{2}+2ad
=\sqrt{(21.2)^{2}-(0.049)(58.5)}
=21.13m/s

b)Fnet=Fk
ma=μk.Fn
ma=μk.mg
a=\frac{(0.047)(0.170kg)(9.8m/s^{2})}{0.170kg}
=0.04606m/s^{2}

.. then i don't know what's next..
 
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At (a), the coefficient of friction is given as 0.005, but your calculation uses 0.05.

For (b), you can use the same formula as in (a). This time, the velocities are known and the distance is unknown.
 
mfb said:
At (a), the coefficient of friction is given as 0.005, but your calculation uses 0.05.

For (b), you can use the same formula as in (a). This time, the velocities are known and the distance is unknown.

oh sorry,your right, i typed it wrong..
that's my problem, i always have two unknown variables whenever i used different formula..
 
In b, the distance is the only unknown variable in the formula.
 
yes, i tried to do it like in part a) but i did not get the right answer.. the right answer is 6.24 m
 
pls post your working and the answer you got.
 
IamMoi said:
yes, i tried to do it like in part a) but i did not get the right answer.. the right answer is 6.24 m

For part (b), the initial and final speeds are the same as for part (a) - so the average speed is the same as part (a)

Since the coefficient of friction is nearly 10 times as large, the puck will take only (approx) one tenth the time to slow, so it has the same average speed for 1/10th the time, so should cover (approx) 1/10th the distance.

58.5 / 10 = 5.85m

Of course the new μ is not exactly 10 times the original, so that answer is only approximate.
 
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