Homemade Helicopter: For the People.

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Building a cheap helicopter is a complex endeavor that typically involves significant costs, often starting around $20,000 to $30,000, which may not guarantee safety. Many participants in the discussion highlight that while kits exist for building small aircraft, the engineering and regulatory challenges are substantial. Autogyros are mentioned as a more accessible alternative, offering safety advantages during engine failure, but they still require a solid understanding of aerodynamics. The conversation emphasizes that building a helicopter is not as simple as welding parts together, and thorough research and experience are crucial. Overall, while DIY projects are appealing, they come with serious considerations regarding safety and legality.
  • #201
JerryL said:
Can you do nothing but put someone else down? Does it make you feel superior?
I would not insult or run you down for attemping to improve yourself in a field that I knew and you did not. Lay off.
I want to learn.

There is a difference between attemping to improve yourself and boasting you're giong to build your own helicopter with no money or technical knowledge. I am fully willing to help people that are reasonable in their propositions. I gave you reasonable advice earlier, which you ignored. Aviation is not cheap. If you can't afford to play in this game, don't even bother. Stop being stubborn and listen, because I do fly and I do aircraft design. You have no idea what goes behind the scenes in terms of engineering analysis and tooling to make parts for things as simple as the chair you sit on inside the cockpit of a helicopter. This is one of those threads where if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be doing it.

Anyways, I told you I would help you on questions about theory if you made a thread specific to your question.
 
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  • #202
how can I make the helicopter main rotor blade & main rotor gear box?
 
  • #203
1. Obtain an advanced degree in mechanical/aerospace engineering.

2. Spend 15+ years working in the field of helicopter design and manufacturing.

3. Become a master CNC machinist or hire a bunch of CNC machinists.

4. Quit your day job and spend 5-10 years designing, fabricating, and testing your helicopter design.
 
  • #204
01012010 said:
how can I make the helicopter main rotor blade & main rotor gear box?
:bugeye:
 
  • #205
01012010 said:
how can I make the helicopter main rotor blade & main rotor gear box?

Not sure if this is a hit and run post, or if you are in Jr. High, nothing in your profile to indicate what you can do, or if you have any qualifications to justify an answer.

Brian C sure went overboard on requirments:bugeye: I know several people that can and some have built blades and gear boxes, using limited shop equipment and some parts from rear axels of junk trucks and cars.

Basic skills and study, along with access to the proper tools can produce almost anything :cool:
Now to qualify that statement, using tools properly requires a learning curve that can be quick for some and quite long for others.

Ron
 
  • #206
happenly come across this video clip, seems the chinese are one step ahead already, they have DIY their cheap helicopter and made it fly in air already, and according to it, the total cost is just around $4k. though looks very scary when in flying. :-)

http://hi.baidu.com/tblc/blog/item/d4657d1e6b85baf11ad5762f.html
 
  • #207
minicoper said:
happenly come across this video clip, seems the chinese are one step ahead already, they have DIY their cheap helicopter and made it fly in air already, and according to it, the total cost is just around $4k. though looks very scary when in flying. :-)

http://hi.baidu.com/tblc/blog/item/d4657d1e6b85baf11ad5762f.html

In what way are they a step ahead?
 
  • #208
the guy made the thing out there and it works, though looks dangerous, and we are still under discussion and in theory... :-)
 
  • #209
minicoper said:
the guy made the thing out there and it works, though looks dangerous, and we are still under discussion and in theory... :-)

These types of small helicopters have been around for well over ten years.

See this link:
[1] http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/light.htmlYour statement about us 'still being in theory' is a puzzle to me. We (technical experts who have given advice, not the yahoos asking the questions) have simply said that this is a stupid idea to be attempted by someone without training in helicopter aerodynamics. No one is actually trying to calculate or prove anything here theoretically.
 
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  • #210
The cheap, Chinese (redundant) helicopter link didn't work for me.

Aviation + Chinese = no friggin' way. With the amount of copying and downright fraud when it comes to spec'd hardware and components, there is no way I would even entertain the notion.
 
  • #211
Cyrus said:
These types of small helicopters have been around for well over ten years.

Counting thehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bensen_Aircraft" , make that 58 years!
 
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  • #212
mugaliens said:
Counting thehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bensen_Aircraft" , make that 58 years!

Note the inventor: Dr Igor Bensen
 
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  • #213
Cyrus said:
Note the inventor: Dr Igor Bensen

Ok, noted. I'm curious as to why, for the "Bensen autogyro" has gone by that name, without the academic accolade, since it's inception. Even his company, Bensen Aircraft, exists sans the doctorate, similar to Freeman's "Dyson sphere." It's not the Dr. Dyson sphere, and having met the man while visiting a good friend from high school who attended Princeton, I'll say "wow" as in "extremely mentally adept," but I'm thankful he never lorded his credentials.

I never met Dr. Bensen.

Plans for homebuilders of his Bensen B-8 remain available to this day. Remarkably capable aircraft! I've flown two helos, a Hughes 500C (369HE), used as a sherrif's helo, and a UH-1N. The Huey was solid as a rock, although it tended to slowly beat you like a washing machine, while the 500 was a bit squirrely!
 
  • #214
The note was for the people thinking they should build one in their garage with no expertise. :wink:

The fact that its still in use says a lot because there are many home builds that fell by the waist side due to unsafe designs.
 
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  • #215
Cyrus said:
The note was for the people thinking they should build one in their garage with no expertise. :wink:

The fact that its still in use says a lot because there are many home builds that fell by the waist side due to unsafe designs.

It's true: Amature-built aicraft experience experience approximately 3.5 times the accident rate of FAA-certified general aviation aircraft.

However, I'm not so sure that's a function of design or poor quality workmanship as it is the psyche of your typical amateur bilder! Most of them accept more risk than your average pilot, as evidenced by the fact they enter the home-build arena at all.

Having said that, I'm a very meticulous garage mechanic (i.e. I work on my own cars), builder of R/C models (though not since high school), and an aero engineer.

If I ever decided to enter the home-built market, I would rework all calcs, as I'm not about to sit my butt in an airplane that may contain hidden defects! But that's just me...
 
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