Homomorphism SL(2,C) with restricted Lorentz

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a homomorphism in the context of the special linear group SL(2,C) and its relation to Lorentz transformations. Participants explore the mathematical properties of traces and their implications for understanding homomorphisms, particularly in relation to multiplication.

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  • One participant presents a formula for a Lorentz transformation and seeks clarification on its homomorphic properties under multiplication.
  • Another participant identifies an identity involving traces that relates to the homomorphism, although they express uncertainty about the proof.
  • A third participant provides a definition of a homomorphism and connects it to the multiplication of elements, reinforcing the earlier comments about the multiplication aspect.
  • A subsequent reply suggests a method for proving the trace identity by using summed indices and the completeness relation of the Pauli matrices, although the participant admits to not recalling the complete proof.
  • Another participant asserts that proving the completeness relation is straightforward and suggests it as an exercise for the original poster.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the proof of the trace identity and the completeness relation, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved on these mathematical proofs.

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Limitations include the lack of a complete proof for the trace identity and the completeness relation, as well as the dependence on specific mathematical definitions and identities that may not be universally agreed upon.

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We have that

\Lambda^{\mu}_{\nu} = \frac{1}{2}Tr(\overline{\sigma}^{\mu}A\sigma^{\nu}A^{\dagger})

I would like to make sense of the statement that this is a homomorphism because the correspondence above is preserved under multiplication.

Can someone clarify how I could see this?
 
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Nevermind. While the tool needed was clear from the beginning, i.e. an identity about products of traces, I was completely oblivious to the existence of one. It turns out that

<br /> \sum_{\mu}Tr(G\sigma_{\mu})Tr(\overline{\sigma}^{\mu}H) = 2 Tr(GH)<br />

While I still don't know the proof of this, this is the correct answer.
 
A map of the form:
\phi : A \rightarrow B
a \rightarrow b=\phi(a)
is roughly speaking an homomorphism if for elements x, y \in A the \phi(x) \cdot \phi(y) = \phi(x*y)
and that's why the comment about multiplication.

As for the proof of your last equation in post2, if I recall well you can prove it better by writting the traces with summed indices:
G_{ai} \sigma_{ia}^\mu \bar{\sigma}^\mu_{jb} H_{bj}
and then using separately the \sigma^0, \sigma^k's and use their completeness relation (generalization of the : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_matrices#Completeness_relation)... but I don't really remember the complete proof...
 
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yup it's straightforward (5-6 single-expression lines depending on how rigorous you want to be) with the completeness relation I gave you (obviously I just tried it o0))...

So I guess it would be a better "exercise" for you to prove the completeness relation for the pauli matrices that is given in the wiki article I sent you.
 

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