Hooke's Law and Centripetal Motion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spring constant k and the effective mass of a system using Hooke's Law and centripetal motion principles. A 0.20 kg mass causes a 9.50 cm elongation, while a 1.00 kg mass results in a 12.00 cm elongation. The initial calculations for weight and spring constant are critiqued for unit conversion errors, emphasizing the need to convert elongation from centimeters to meters. Participants suggest using the unweighted length of the spring to derive two equations for k and the equilibrium position. The conversation highlights the importance of clarity in problem statements and proper unit handling in physics calculations.
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Homework Statement


A 0.20 kg mass hangs vertically from a spring and an elongation below the support point of the spring of 9.50 cm is recorded. With 1.00 kg hanging on the spring, a second elongation of 12.00 cm is recorded. Calculate the spring constant k in Newtons per meter. (Note the equilibrium position is not 0.) Then at the elongation of 9.50 cm, a frequency of 300 rev/min is recorded. Then at elongation of 12.00 cm, frequency of 400 rev/min is recorded. Calculate the effective mass of the system in kilograms. (convert to SI. w=f*2pi/60 switches from rev/min to rad/sec.)

Homework Equations


W=mg
W=-kd

The Attempt at a Solution


W=(0.20kg)(980.35 cm/s^2) = 196.07N
W=(1.00kg)(980.35cm/s^2)=980.35N
196.07N=-k(0.095m)=-2063.89N/m
980.35N=-k(0.12m) = -8169N/m
Is that all correct and I do not know where to go from here.
 
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CAG0625 said:
W=(0.20kg)(980.35 cm/s^2) = 196.07N
kg cm/s^2 is not going to give Newtons. Better to convert the cm to m, not the other way around.
CAG0625 said:
196.07N=-k(0.095m)=-2063.89N/m
You are misreading the question. I'm not sure if it is misleading because it refers to 'elongation' when it means length, or maybe you are supposed to allow for the spring's own mass:
CAG0625 said:
(Note the equilibrium position is not 0.)
 
Your first two lines in 3 give you the force F for two different extensions x below the unweighted length.
You don't know x, but if you assume the unweighted length of the hanging spring is h then you have two values of x+h.
Using Hooke's Law you can get two independent equations in h and k. Then solve for h and k.
 
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