How Can I Overcome Impedance Issues for Accurate Inrush Current Measurements?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around measuring inrush current using a 0.1 ohm resistor in conjunction with a Chroma 61605 AC source. Participants explore the impedance issues encountered when attempting to capture accurate inrush current measurements within the first 50 microseconds after activating a relay.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Chroma 61605 is a switching type controller and questions its ability to regulate current at very short time intervals (<50 microseconds).
  • Another participant suggests that inrush current typically lasts from half a cycle to several cycles (8.3 to 167 milliseconds), indicating a potential misunderstanding of the inrush current duration in this context.
  • It is mentioned that the peak current in the specific case occurs and dissipates within the first 50 microseconds of switching the relay, suggesting that the characteristics of the device may influence the inrush current behavior.
  • A suggestion is made to add two capacitors (a 10 µF film capacitor and a 0.1 µF mica capacitor) to the output of the Chroma to potentially mitigate the impedance issue, with a caution to ensure the capacitors are rated for AC operation.
  • One participant raises the possibility of measuring transient voltage instead of transient current, proposing a method to check for transient voltage using an oscilloscope.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of inrush current and the capabilities of the Chroma 61605, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach to overcome the impedance issues for accurate measurements.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the characteristics of inrush current and the specific limitations of the Chroma 61605 in this measurement context. The discussion also highlights potential dependencies on the specific devices being tested.

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I'm trying to measure inrush current by looking at the voltage of a 0.1ohm resistor in the line within the first 50uS of flipping a relay to a variable AC source.

Problem is that the new AC source that I have (chroma 61605) apparently has an impedance issue which prohibits good inrush measurements. (E.g. 120VAC @ 60HZ is way different from it than from the wall when it comes to <50uS "turn on" measurements of inrush current).

Any way to overcome this?
 
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The Chroma is a switching type controller, it is unlikely that it can control or regulate current at time periods as short as <50uS.
Isn't inrush current generally meant to be 1/2 to maybe 10 cycles (8.3 to 167 millisecond)?
Correct me if the preceding is incorrect. This is not my area of expertise.
 
Carl Pugh said:
The Chroma is a switching type controller, it is unlikely that it can control or regulate current at time periods as short as <50uS.
Isn't inrush current generally meant to be 1/2 to maybe 10 cycles (8.3 to 167 millisecond)?
Correct me if the preceding is incorrect. This is not my area of expertise.

Maybe it depends on the device? in my case the peak current value occurs and dissipates within the first 50uS of switching my relay.
 
You could try putting two capacitors on the output of the Chroma.
Say maybe a 10 uf film capacitor and maybe a 0.1 uf mica capacitors. You should probably do some calculations on how much the voltage on the 10 uf capacitor will drop with the current that is drawn.
Use capacitors that are rated for AC operation. Capacitors that are rated for DC operation will fail.

Could you be picking up some sort of transient voltage and not transient current?
With oscilloscope probe ground connected, short oscilloscope probe input to ground. If the transient is still there, you are seeing transient voltage.
 

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