How come water in a cup won't shoot out of a straw placed inside it?

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The discussion revolves around fluid dynamics, specifically the behavior of water in a straw placed in a cup. The original poster expresses confusion regarding why water does not shoot out of the straw despite the apparent difference in force due to varying surface areas.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure and force, questioning why atmospheric pressure does not result in water being expelled from the straw. There are inquiries about the pressure inside the straw and the forces acting on the water column.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the pressures involved and the forces acting on the water. Some guidance is offered regarding the need to compare pressures rather than forces, although there is no clear consensus on the underlying principles at play.

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Participants are navigating concepts related to atmospheric pressure, fluid dynamics, and Pascal's principle, with some expressing uncertainty about the physics models involved.

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I've been learning about pressure and fluid dynamics, and I've stumbled onto a problem. Say you have a straw in a cup. The surface area of the water in the cup is much greater than that of the straw. So I would expect Atm. Pressure × Large Area gives a much greater force than Atm. Pressure × Small Area. In fact, the force is so much larger I would expect a spectacular jet of water, which obviously does not happen.

What am I missing?

Thanks
 
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What's the pressure inside an open straw with one end put into a cup of water? Why doesn't the water shoot out of the cup without a straw placed in it?
 
The water doesn't shoot out because the atmosphere is pressing down on it evenly. And the pressures are the same, but the forces are different. I know by experience that the water won't shoot out of the straw, but I don't know why in terms of physics models.

I know you're trying to hint me to the answer but I don't really understand.

Thanks
 
Try to specify clearly all of the separate forces acting on the column of water inside the straw and the locations at which those forces act. What is the magnitude of each of the forces?
 

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Why are you comparing the forces? You should be comparing the pressures. The pressure inside the straw is the same as the pressure outside of the straw (for the same depth) therefore there is no net force pushing fluid inside of the straw. The atmospheric force is not transferred unchanged over the fluid. The pressure is. That's called Pascal principle.
 

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