How could you calculate the energy of a volcano?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to calculate the energy of volcanic eruptions, considering various factors such as the Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI), total ejecta, eruption duration, and plume height. Participants explore the implications of these calculations and their relevance to comparisons with other natural disasters and nuclear explosions.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that knowing the VEI, total ejecta, duration, and plume height may be sufficient for calculating eruption energy, while others imply that additional variables might be necessary.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the purpose behind calculating eruption energy to determine relevant variables.
  • There is a mention of comparing energy outputs of volcanic eruptions to nuclear bombs and other natural disasters, with assumptions about the significance of ejecta as a primary variable.
  • Another participant proposes that the number of times a shock wave travels around the Earth could serve as a guide to the energy of the eruption.
  • A later reply discusses the method of using shockwave analysis to calculate energy release, referencing comparisons between different volcanic events and nuclear explosions, while noting a lack of detailed mathematical explanations in sources.
  • One participant argues against the feasibility of comparing volcanic eruptions to nuclear explosions on a one-dimensional scale, highlighting differences in eruption types and their effects on the environment.
  • There is a suggestion that measuring the total mass of surface material entering the stratosphere could be a useful metric for assessing eruption magnitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the methods and variables involved in calculating volcanic eruption energy, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationships between variables and the methods of calculation remain unaddressed, and there is a lack of consensus on the most effective approach to measure eruption energy.

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Finding what method people use to calculate the energy of volcanic eruptions
So how can I calculate the energy of a volcanic eruption? If I know the VEI, total ejecta, duration and plume height would that be enough or would I need more variables?
 
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Ax_xiom said:
So how can I calculate the energy of a volcanic eruption?
If you can explain why you want to calculate the energy of a volcanic eruption, then the variables you must include, will become obvious.
 
Ax_xiom said:
TL;DR Summary: Finding what method people use to calculate the energy of volcanic eruptions

So how can I calculate the energy of a volcanic eruption?
"Tambora/Yellowstone." or Mt. St. Helen's/Paracutin? "The Lighthouse of the Mediterranean," perhaps?
 
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"Tambora/Yellowstone." or Mt. St. Helen's/Paracutin? "The Lighthouse of the Mediterranean," perhaps?
More Mt Tambora but I would like to know the methods used to calculate energies for all eruptions
 
Baluncore said:
If you can explain why you want to calculate the energy of a volcanic eruption, then the variables you must include, will become obvious.
I want to compare the energy output of volcanic eruptions to nuclear bombs and other natural disasters. I'm assuming that the amount of ejecta would be the main variable, with stuff like duration, plume height and type of lava would be secondary variables
 
I suppose the number of times the shock wave travels round the earth would be a guide to the energy.
 
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After a bit of research I think that what people actually do to calculate the energy release of a volcano is to look at the shockwave and then use it to calculate the energy (like you would do with an explosion). An example is here where they compared Hunga Tonga to Tsar Bomba and Mt St Helens. Although most sources don't show how they did the maths to arrive at the numbers they did :(
 
Ax_xiom said:
I want to compare the energy output of volcanic eruptions to nuclear bombs and other natural disasters.
I don't think they can be compared on a one dimensional scale.
For a start, Hawaiian type volcanoes do not explode. Those volcanoes that do explode, push a lot of mineral dust, gas and water up into the stratosphere.

A nuclear bomb would knock over a city, then burn it in a firestorm, convecting the combustion products, up into the stratosphere.

The destruction of a meteorite in the Earth's atmosphere is similar, in that it first generates a shockwave, then a strong wind, driven by convection of the heated air column. Bigger body impact events, will behave like an explosive volcano.

So, how to measure the magnitude of the event? A shock wave is hard to monitor, even during a predicted event. The total mass of surface material entering the stratosphere would be one metric. It could be assessed by the later fallout of sediment onto snowfields, glaciers and icecaps.
 

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