How do I find the normal modes of massless string w/ masses?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the normal modes of a massless string under tension, comparing a single mass with a string to a configuration with multiple masses. The objective is to find the frequencies of the smallest three modes of transverse motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the concept of coupled oscillators and relevant equations to determine the frequencies. Some participants question the choice of parameters used in the calculations, particularly the value of ωo.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the calculations needed to identify the mistake in the original poster's approach. There is an acknowledgment of the need for detailed calculations to clarify the issue.

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The problem references specific homework constraints and requires adherence to the provided equations and parameters. There is an implication that the original poster's calculations may not align with expected results, prompting further exploration of the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement


So, a string with length L and a mass of M is given tension T. Find the frequencies of the smallest three modes of transverse motion. Then compare with a massless string with the same tension and length, but there are 3 masses of M/3 equally spaced. So this is problem #1
http://www.physics.purdue.edu/~jones105/phys42200_Spring2013/Assignment_5_Spring2013.pdf

Homework Equations


ν * λ = velocity
velocity = sqrt(T * L / M)
νn = nν1 n = 1, 2, 3
ν1 = √(T/(4ML))

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using coupled oscillators and the equation for finding the frequencies.
ωq=2ω0|sin(q/2)|
q = nπ/(N+1) where n is the index and N is the number of particles
This does not give me the correct answer.
The correct answer is: .84ν1, 1.55ν1, and 2.04ν1.
 
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Hello. Welcome to PF!

What did you use for ωo?
 
TSny said:
Hello. Welcome to PF!

What did you use for ωo?
ω02 = T/((M/3)(L/4))
 
OK. That should give the correct answer. You'll have to show your detailed calculations in order to find the mistake.
 

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