How do I solve nodal analysis with a 2Ix voltage source at the red node?

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To solve for the voltage at the red node using nodal analysis, first express Ix in terms of the voltage at that node. The discussion highlights that since the terminals are open, no current flows through the 5-ohm resistor, simplifying the circuit analysis. It is suggested to treat the right side of the node as a supernode to apply nodal analysis effectively. The voltage at the red node is clarified to be related to the current leaving the positive terminal of a controlled voltage source. Ultimately, the analysis involves balancing the currents entering and leaving the node to find the desired voltage.
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How do I find the voltage at the node with the red dot using nodal analysis? The 2Ix voltage source to the left of the node with the red dot makes it confusing for me...

Thanks
 
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First, I think you should find Ix in terms of the voltage at the red dot. Once you have Ix in terms of the node voltage, then you can use nodal analysis to find its value
 
Do you have to use nodal that's sort of odd. Since the terminals are open, no current flows through the 5 ohm resistor and this is a simple series circuit
 
FOIWATER said:
Do you have to use nodal that's sort of odd. Since the terminals are open, no current flows through the 5 ohm resistor and this is a simple series circuit

Well my book uses mesh analysis. I was just wondering whether it is possible to use nodal analysis?
 
Maylis said:
First, I think you should find Ix in terms of the voltage at the red dot. Once you have Ix in terms of the node voltage, then you can use nodal analysis to find its value


The voltage at the red dot is 2Ix no?
 
influx said:
The voltage at the red dot is 2Ix no?
No. That's the voltage of just one of the sources in a branch between Red Point and ground.

If you consider the other (shorter) branch between Red Point and ground, what is that branch voltage?
 
NascentOxygen said:
No. That's the voltage of just one of the sources in a branch between Red Point and ground.

If you consider the other (shorter) branch between Red Point and ground, what is that branch voltage?

Is this correct?

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Yes, you got that part right.
 
Jony130 said:
Yes, you got that part right.

Ok, so how would I apply nodal analysis now? I mean I can get (v-10)/3 but that's as far as I can get. I don't know how to treat the part to the right of node V.
 
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Treat it as one big node a supernode.

Whats comes in must come out.
(10 - V)/3Ω = ((V+ 2*Ix) - 0)/6Ω
And
Ix = (10 - V)/3Ω
 
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Jony130 said:
Treat it as one big node a supernode.

Whats comes in must come out.
(10 - V)/3Ω = ((V+ 2*Ix) - 0)/6Ω
And
Ix = (10 - V)/3Ω


The part in bold is the voltage that comes out of the red node rather than the blue node?

Thanks
 
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influx said:
The part in bold is the voltage that comes out of the red node rather than the blue node?

Thanks
The part in the bold is a current that comes out of the red node. Or the current that leaves the positive terminal of a CCVS.
 

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