How Do Quantum Mechanics Handle Particles at Potential Steps with E<V_0?

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The discussion focuses on solving the Schrödinger Equation for a particle encountering a potential step where the energy E is less than the potential V_0. The proposed wave functions for the regions are \psi_1 = Ae^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx} for the incoming wave and \psi_2 = Ce^{-qx} for the transmitted wave, with the condition that \psi_2 must decay exponentially. Concerns are raised about the normalizability of the wave functions, particularly regarding the oscillatory nature of \psi_1 and the necessity of boundary conditions for continuity. The participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying the Schrödinger Equation and ensuring that the wave functions remain normalizable across the defined regions. The conversation concludes with a consensus on the need for proper mathematical treatment to achieve valid solutions.
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I am asked to determine the expressions for coefficients of the solutions \psi_1 and \psi_2 to the Schrodinger's Equation in a system where a particle traveling to the right encounters a potential step when E &lt; V_0, where E is the total energy.

What I was able to come up with is that
<br /> \psi_1 = Ae^{kx} + Be^{-kx}, k = \frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{\hbar}<br />

<br /> \psi_2 = Ce^{qx} + De^{-qx}, q = \frac{\sqrt{2m(E-V_0)}}{\hbar}<br />

What I also know is that Ce^{qx} is unacceptable because the wave must decay exponentially when it hits the barrier.

My first question is whether or not this statement is true:

<br /> \int_{-\infty}^{0}|\psi_1|^2dx + \int_{0}^{+\infty}|\psi_2|^2dx = 1<br />

My second question is if Be^{-kx} is an acceptable solution to \psi_1. In my opinion i believe it is not acceptable because it diverges as x negative approaches infinity.

Thanks for any help.
 
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relinquished™ said:
<br /> \psi_1 = Ae^{kx} + Be^{-kx}, k = \frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{\hbar}<br />

For \psi_1\ E&gt;V right? So you should have oscillating solutions on the left side of the barrier. As you have written the equations you have oscillating solutions on the right side of the barrier.

How is the k defined?
 
You have his definition there...k=:\frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{\hbar}

If the barrier in in the origin,then yes,you must make sure that:
1.Incoming wave is sinusoidal type (yours is not,so check it again).
2.Reflected wave is sinusoidal type (yours is not,so check it again).
3.Transmitted wave is exponentially decaying in amplitude...(i think you somehow got this part right).

Check again the signs & the substitutions you make in the initial SE for each domain.
Impose continuity conditions fo the wavefunction & for the its first space derivative.
Your wave functions are NOT normalizable!

Daniel.
 
I made a mistake in my \psi_1, i think the solution should be
<br /> \psi_1 = Ae^{ikx} + B^{-ikx}<br />
<br /> \psi_2 = Ce^{-iqx}<br />

Hmmm... If I remember correctly, in Eisberg's book he used \psi_2 = Ce^{-qx} (a real function) and then equated it to \psi_1 (a complex function) at x=0, then applied the boundary conditions for continuity... is \psi_2 = Ce^{-qx} really not normalizable?

Thanks again for all the help
 
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That one is...The sinusoidal is not...Therefore,the coefficients can be found only imposing the continuity conditions...

Daniel.

P.S.Eisberg or whatever is right.
 
Is my new \psi_1 normalizable now? i.e.,

<br /> \psi_1 = Ae^{ipx} + Be^{-ipx}<br />

Normalization is quite confusing to me sometimes...

Thanks again for the help
 
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Nope.Try to see.Look,my maple says: \left| Ae^{ipx}+Be^{-ipx}\right| ^2=\left( A\cos px+B\cos px\right) ^2+\left( A\sin px-B\sin px\right) ^2

Now,open the brackets and then integrate the simplified function between (-oO,0)...You'll see that it diverges.

Daniel.
 
Um... is it necessary to convert Ae^{ipx} + Be^{-ipx} to its ciskx and coskx - isinkx form before normalizing it? I trashed the idea of thinking that the wave function at the left had the form of either sine or cosine because they would definitely diverge when I integrate them from (-o0, 0)when they are normalized...
 
relinquished™ said:
I made a mistake in my \psi_1, i think the solution should be
<br /> \psi_1 = Ae^{ikx} + B^{-ikx}<br />
<br /> \psi_2 = Ce^{-iqx}<br />
If you rewrite the Schrodinger equation for x>0 correctly:

-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2}{dx^2}\psi(x)+V_0\psi(x)=E\psi(x)
\Rightarrow \frac{d^2}{dx^2}\psi(x)=\frac{2m(V_0-E)}{\hbar^2}\psi(x)=q^2\psi(x)
You'll find q = \frac{\sqrt{2m(V_0-E)}}{\hbar} is real and positive. So you get exponentially decaying functions.
 
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He did that,Galileo,we were discussing the sollution for negative "x"...For positive "x" there was nothing more to discuss...

Daniel.
 
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