How Do You Calculate the Angle in a Spinning Mass Problem?

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To calculate the angle in a spinning mass problem, a mass of 7.10 kg is suspended from a 1.21 m string and revolves with a tangential speed of 2.90 m/s. The equations of motion involve balancing forces in both the x and y directions, leading to a quadratic equation derived from the relationship between tension and gravitational force. The final equation simplifies to a standard quadratic form, which can be solved using the quadratic formula. There is some confusion regarding the signs in the equation, particularly in the coefficients of the quadratic terms. Correctly solving this will yield the angle between the string and the vertical.
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Homework Statement


1) A mass of 7.10 kg is suspended from a 1.21 m long string. It revolves in a horizontal circle as shown in the figure. The tangential speed of the mass is 2.90 m/s. Calculate the angle between the string and the vertical.

Picture 1) http://psblnx03.bd.psu.edu/res/msu/...Force_Motion_Adv/graphics/prob03_pendulum.gif

The Attempt at a Solution



For 1) I have the equation down to:

\frac{gL}{v^2} - \frac{gL}{v^2}cos^2 \theta - cos \theta = 0 How would I put this into the quadratic formula? (L = length of string)
 
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You should show what you did. For both of them you just need to draw an fbd and find the net force.
 
Jebus_Chris said:
You should show what you did. For both of them you just need to draw an fbd and find the net force.

I have shown what I did? If I were to show everything that would be a hell of a lot of typing. I've already done FBD, all I need is what has been asked.

Problem 1:

T_y - mg = 0 X-Direction: T sin \theta = \frac{mv^2}{r}

T cos\theta = mg X-Direction: T sin \theta = \frac{mv^2}{Lsin \theta}

T = \frac{mg}{cos \theta} X-Direction: T = \frac{mv^2}{Lsin^2 \theta}

\frac{mg}{cos \theta} = \frac {mv^2}{Lsin^2 \theta}

mgL sin^2 \theta = mv^2 cos \theta

gL(1-cos^2 \theta) = v^2 cos \theta Thus:

<br /> \frac{gL}{v^2} - \frac{gL}{v^2}cos^2 \theta - cos\theta = 0 <br />
 
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I have no idea what you did for (1). What were you x and y equations for force?
 
Jebus_Chris said:
I have no idea what you did for (1). What were you x and y equations for force?

I edited above for #1. The x-direction is on the right side, y on the left.
 
Alright, when I did it I had the radius as L >>
In your final equation just set cos\theta = x.
 
I did that but wouldn't you get something like

\frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1^2 - 4(1.41)(1.41)} }{2(1.41)}

Which would simplify to:

\frac{1 \pm \sqrt {-6.9524}}{2.82}

?

Edit: For reference the equation would be 1.41x^2 - x + 1.41 Edited out 2nd question.
 
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<br /> <br /> \frac{gL}{v^2} - \frac{gL}{v^2}cos^2 \theta - cos\theta = 0 <br /> <br />
So the quadratic equation would be
<br /> -1.41x^2 - x + 1.41 <br />
You had a positive when it is actually negative.
 
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