Engineering How Do You Calculate Thevenin Voltage Using Superposition?

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The discussion focuses on calculating Thevenin voltage using the superposition principle. Participants highlight the importance of correctly determining Thevenin resistance and voltage calculations, specifically addressing errors in voltage divider applications. Clarifications are made regarding the proper method for suppressing sources, emphasizing that current sources should be removed and voltage sources shorted. Additionally, the correct approach to calculating contributions from remaining components is discussed. Overall, the conversation reinforces the need for careful application of circuit analysis principles in Thevenin calculations.
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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


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Is this correct? I used principle of superposition to calculate the Thevenin voltage[/B]
 
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Check your Thevenin resistance. When you calculated 60 || 30 you seem to have ended up with 15, although you did it correctly elsewhere.

Check your ##V_{th1}## calculation. You have a voltage divider and shouldn't end up with the same voltage as the source driving it on its output.

For ##V_{th3}##, when you suppress the 1.2 A source you remove it, not short it. And suppressing the 18 V supply shorts it. Draw the remaining circuitry. You'll see that the 0.25 A supply does make a contribution to Vth (it's still in parallel with a 20 Ohm resistor).
 
gneill said:
Check your Thevenin resistance. When you calculated 60 || 30 you seem to have ended up with 15, although you did it correctly elsewhere.

Check your ##V_{th1}## calculation. You have a voltage divider and shouldn't end up with the same voltage as the source driving it on its output.

For ##V_{th3}##, when you suppress the 1.2 A source you remove it, not short it. And suppressing the 18 V supply shorts it. Draw the remaining circuitry. You'll see that the 0.25 A supply does make a contribution to Vth (it's still in parallel with a 20 Ohm resistor).

Yeah. My thevenin resistance should be 40 and not 35.

Ah yes. I see my mistake there for Vth1. I added the resistances even though thevenin voltage was only across one of the resistors and not the sum of them so I should use voltage division for it since voltage is divided in series. Forgot about that.

So is this correct for Vth3 -
http://puu.sh/lR1gV/9cd3848fff.jpg

That black oval, removing that completely?(and shorting the voltage) So the 0.25A would still be connected in parallel to 20ohms.
 
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Right. When you suppress sources, currents are replaced by open circuits, voltages by short circuits.
 
gneill said:
Right. When you suppress sources, currents are replaced by open circuits, voltages by short circuits.
Awesome. Thanks so much
 

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