How Does Fred the Monkey's Descent Affect the Cylinder's Rotation?

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The problem involves a solid steel cylinder and a monkey descending on a thread wound around the cylinder, exploring the relationship between the monkey's descent and the cylinder's rotation. The subject area includes dynamics and rotational motion.

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  • Participants discuss the need for the moment of inertia of the cylinder and explore the relationship between tension, torque, and angular acceleration. There are attempts to derive equations relating tension and acceleration, as well as questions about how gravity factors into the overall dynamics.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the relationships between different physical quantities and exploring various interpretations of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to relate angular acceleration to the monkey's acceleration.

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There is a mention of specific masses and the setup of the problem, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution. The discussion reflects uncertainty about how to integrate all relevant forces and motions.

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A 13-kg solid steel cylinder with a 10-cm radius is mounted on bearings so that it rotates freely about a horizontal axis. Around the cylinder is wound a number of turns of a fine gold thread. A 4.0-kg monkey named Fred holds on to the loose end and descends on the unwinding thread as the cylinder turns. Compute Fred's acceleration and the tension in the thread.


Homework Equations


Acceleration: a= Vf-Vo
t
Tension Moving Down: Ft = Fg + ma


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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What, no attempt at a solution? You're also going to need the moment of inertia of the cylinder, I believe
 
Sorry, my attempts at a solution only led me to the fact that Tension=MfG-MfA and then Tension=1/2McA and therefore MfG-MfA=1/2McA. "A" being acceleration, Mf being Mass of Fred, and Mc being mass of the cylinder and G being gravity.
 
Tension=1/2McA

Where did this come from? You should be able to relate the tension to the torque on the cylinder and to its angular acceleration.
 
Don't you have to keep more in mind than just the torque and tension? Such as gravity? I'm not sure how those would fit together.
 
Yes, the last piece of the problem should be relating the angular acceleration of the cylinder to the acceleration of the monkey (and the forces on the monkey)
 

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