How does substituting t in the y-coordinate equation affect the outcome?

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The discussion revolves around the substitution of the variable t in the y-coordinate equation and its impact on the outcome of a physics problem related to projectile motion. Participants are exploring the relationships between the variables involved, particularly focusing on how substituting t affects the calculation of the maximum range.

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  • Participants are questioning the rationale behind substituting t instead of v in the equations. They are also discussing the implications of keeping t in the calculations and the challenges it presents in determining the maximum value of x.

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The discussion is active with participants sharing their perspectives on the substitution process. Some have provided insights into the relationships between the variables, while others express confusion about the necessity of eliminating t. There is acknowledgment of differing approaches without a clear consensus on the best method.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for making substitutions. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations regarding the roles of the variables involved in the equations.

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In this solution the t in the y-coordinate equation is substituted using the x-coordinate equation and ultimately leads to the answer.

My questions:
1. Why don't I get the same answer when I substitute the v or v and t instead?
2. How am I supposed to know to substitute t in this example and not v?
 

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I don't see how you can get it by keeping the t. You don't know t, so how can you tell the maximum value of x that way? I get
x = gt²/(2*tanΘ)
and can't tell what combination of t and Θ provide the maximum x.
It would be good to see your calc.

There is no need to eliminate the v; it is a constant. But you must eliminate the variable t.
 


Well, the problem is quite easy to approach.
Range is given by u^2 sin(2a) / g, where a is the projection angle.
Since -1<sin a<1, the max. value for a sine function = 1. This occurs when the angle is 90 degrees or .5pi radians.
So, for a fixed u:
2a = 90
a = 45 degrees.
 


Delphi51 said:
I don't see how you can get it by keeping the t. You don't know t, so how can you tell the maximum value of x that way? I get
x = gt²/(2*tanΘ)
and can't tell what combination of t and Θ provide the maximum x.
It would be good to see your calc.

There is no need to eliminate the v; it is a constant. But you must eliminate the variable t.

Ok, now I understand. Thnx!
 

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