How Long Does It Take a Model Rocket to Reach Maximum Height?

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The problem involves a model rocket launched vertically with an initial speed and constant acceleration, asking for the time to reach maximum height. The discussion centers around kinematic equations and the interpretation of results from different methods of calculation.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore two methods for calculating the time to maximum height, comparing results from kinematic equations. Questions arise regarding discrepancies between methods and the reasoning behind different values for time.

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Some participants have provided calculations and expressed confusion over the differing results from their approaches. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions and setups used in each method, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying kinematic equations and question the validity of their assumptions regarding displacement and acceleration after the rocket's engines stop.

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Homework Statement



A model rocket is launched straight upward with an initial speed of 50.0 m/s. It accelerates with a constant upward acceleration of 2.00 m/s^2 until its engines stop at an altitude of 150 m. How long after lift off does the rocket reach the maximum height?

from College Physics by Serway and Faughn

Homework Equations



(1) v = v_0 + at where v denotes velocity, v_0 denotes initial velocity, a denotes acceleration, and t denotes time in seconds.

(2) x = v_0t + \frac{1}{2}at^2 where x denotes the displacement

(3) v^2 = v_0^2 + 2ax

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so for this problem I found 2 ways to do it. One of them gives the correct answer (in the back of the book) and the other is off by a little.

The method that gives the correct answer:


So let the velocity of the rocket at the point where the acceleration stops be v_1 and the velocity of the rocket at the highest point be v_2. Let the time of the rocket's acceleration be t_1 and the time of no rocket's acceleration be t_2. Note that at the highest point, the velocity is 0, so v_2 = 0.

Now we find v_1. From equation (3), v_1^2 - 50.0^2 = 2 \cdot 2.00 \cdot 150 so v_1 = 55.68 m/s.

From equation (1), we have v_1 = 50.0 + at_1, so 55.68 = 50.0 + 2.00 \cdot t_1 and t_1 = 2.84 sec.

From equation (1) again, we have v_2 = v_1 + at_2, so -55.68 = -9.8t and t_2 = 5.68 sec.

The answer is \boxed{8.52} sec.


Ok so here's the other method that I tried but it didn't give the right answer:

Let d_2 denote the distance that the rocket travels after it stops accelerating itself. Then, by (3), 0 = 55.68^2 - 2 \cdot 9.8 \cdot x, so x = 158.

So by (2), x = 158 = 55.68 \cdot t_2 - 4.9t_2^2.

Solving the quadratic gives t_2 = 5.49 sec or t = 5.87 sec.

But this doesn't give the right answer :( , help?
 
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I get t=√3100/9.8=5.681 sec.
 
Yes :) because \sqrt{3100} = 55.68 as obtained in my first method, but why doesn't the second method work?
 
professordad said:
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Ok so here's the other method that I tried but it didn't give the right answer:

Let d_2 denote the distance that the rocket travels after it stops accelerating itself. Then, by (3), 0 = 55.68^2 - 2 \cdot 9.8 \cdot x, so x = 158.

So by (2), x = 158 = 55.68 \cdot t_2 - 4.9t_2^2.

Solving the quadratic gives t_2 = 5.49 sec or t = 5.87 sec.

But this doesn't give the right answer :( , help?


I also wonder why 2 different values for t.
But if we put displacement=0 then,

0=55.68-4.9t
ttotal=55.68/4.9=11.3632
t=5.68163
 
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