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Im wondering does anyone know roughly how many galaxies we have red shift data for, just a ball park. Is it hundreds? thousands? millions?
For spectroscopic redshifts, the answer is millions. For photometric redshifts (which are quicker but less accurate), hundreds of millions. The Sloan Digital Sky Survey is one of the largest surveys, and it alone measured numbers in this range, but there have been other surveys:windy miller said:Im wondering does anyone know roughly how many galaxies we have red shift data for, just a ball park. Is it hundreds? thousands? millions?
Yup. It's a really, really big universe and it takes a lot of telescope time to image far-away galaxies in depth.TEFLing said:https://www.universetoday.com/30305/how-many-galaxies-in-the-universe/
estimated 2,000 billion galaxies in the known Universe
200 billion would be observable
0.5 billion have been catalogued by SDSS ?
0.003 billion have scrutinized spectra ?
I understand our current map of the universe is somewhat like a "Lindisfarne map" of the heavenskimbyd said:Yup. It's a really, really big universe and it takes a lot of telescope time to image far-away galaxies in depth.
It's possible, but unlikely. Enough observations have been made to demonstrate that the universe is highly homogeneous on large scales. The CMB observations alone are very strong evidence of that.TEFLing said:I understand our current map of the universe is somewhat like a "Lindisfarne map" of the heavens
Lots could be "lurking out there between the lines" and we would as yet have very scant knowledge
Yes, homogeneous, and there could hypothetically be technosignatures homogeneously distributed across the sky and we would only have a 0.003/2000 chance of noticingkimbyd said:It's possible, but unlikely. Enough observations have been made to demonstrate that the universe is highly homogeneous on large scales. The CMB observations alone are very strong evidence of that.
In the Edit window (or Reply or whatever), at the left of the top toolbar there is a bold B. Highlight the text you want to Bold and click that B. You can do the same thing for Bold and Underline. It's best to only bold a word or two for emphasis, though. Lots of bolding or large fonts is usually distracting (at least in the technical forums).TEFLing said:I need a reminder on how to format text so as not to have to use all caps for emphasis?
Found the Latex / Bbcode guides link, will use text formatting instead of all caps for emphasis, to be easier to read :)PeterDonis said:@TEFLing you didn't violate the rules against speculation, but you did violate the rules against shouting, which is why your post got deleted. There's no need to shout.
Also, the question of what might be lurking in the data we do not have is not on topic here, since the OP's question was only about how many galaxies are included in the data we do have.
The problem with that analysis is that it's extraordinarily unlikely that we could ever detect an extra-galactic civilization. Our chances of detecting another civilization are pretty limited to a quite small fraction of our own galaxy close to us.TEFLing said:Yes, homogeneous, and there could hypothetically be technosignatures homogeneously distributed across the sky and we would only have a 0.003/2000 chance of noticing
frighteningly truekimbyd said:The problem with that analysis is that it's extraordinarily unlikely that we could ever detect an extra-galactic civilization. Our chances of detecting another civilization are pretty limited to a quite small fraction of our own galaxy close to us.
I'm sure I listened to an interview with George Efstathiou where he admitted that the Planck data suggested significant differences in the CMB on each side of the map. It was 5 years ago though.kimbyd said:It's possible, but unlikely. Enough observations have been made to demonstrate that the universe is highly homogeneous on large scales. The CMB observations alone are very strong evidence of that.
This is true insofar as these 'significant differences' are observable. They are not an indication that the universe is not highly homogeneous on large scales. Quite the opposite, in fact. The small magnitude of these anisotropies is what let's one say that the homogeneity is high.Lindsayforbes said:I'm sure I listened to an interview with George Efstathiou where he admitted that the Planck data suggested significant differences in the CMB on each side of the map. It was 5 years ago though.
Red shift data is collected through the use of spectroscopy, where the light from a galaxy is split into its component wavelengths and analyzed to determine the amount of red shift. This can be done using ground-based telescopes or space-based telescopes like the Hubble Space Telescope.
Red shift data is generally considered to be very accurate, with a margin of error of about 1%. However, this can vary depending on the method used to collect the data and the quality of the equipment.
As of now, we have red shift data for over 2 million galaxies. This number continues to grow as new telescopes and technologies are developed.
Red shift data is important because it allows us to measure the expansion of the universe and understand its rate. It also helps us to map the large-scale structure of the universe and study the evolution of galaxies over time.
One limitation of using red shift data is that it can only be used for objects that are relatively far away, as the amount of red shift is directly related to the distance of the object. Additionally, red shift data may not accurately represent the true motion of an object if it is influenced by other factors such as gravitational interactions with nearby galaxies.