How Much Friction is Needed to Keep the Ladder in Place?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frictional force required to keep a ladder stable while a person climbs it. The ladder is 5.00 m long, with a mass of 18.0 kg, and its base is 2.30 m from a smooth wall. The person climbing the ladder weighs 70.0 kg and ascends 2.50 m. Key equations involve torque and force balance, leading to a calculated frictional force of 194 N. Participants emphasize the importance of identifying all forces acting on the ladder and suggest focusing on trigonometric functions rather than calculating angles directly.
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Homework Statement


A 5.00-m long uniform ladder leans against a smooth wall and its base rests on a rough floor. The ladder has a mass of 18.0 kg and its base is a distance of 2.30 m from the wall. A person of mass 70.0 kg climbs 2.50 m up the ladder. If the ladder is to remain in place, what frictional force must be exerted by the floor on the ladder?

Homework Equations


t = FR
t =0
N=mgcosθ
ΣF=0
Σt = 0
-mLgbg-mPgbP+Fn,w*a = 0
Fn,w= (mLgbg + mPgbP ) / a

ΣFx = 0
Fs - Fn,w = 0
Fs = Fn,w = (mLgbg + mPgbP ) / a

The Attempt at a Solution


wall (a)= sqrt(30.29)= 5.50m, bL=2.30m, bP=cos(67.3)*cP
c= 5.00m, cP=2.50m
θL= tan-1(5.50/2.30)= 67.3°

Fs = ((18.0)(9.81)(2.30)+(70.0)(9.81)(.965)) / 2.5 = 194 N

I'm not completely sure if I found all forces for this problem, did I find everything for the frictional force?
 
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angle of the ladder with the ground = arc cos(2.3/5) = 62.61°. I do not know which angle you find out to be 30.5 and how? You have to label all the possible forces acting on the ladder and take moments about a convenient point. I think it is center of mass of teh ladder. You think why and what is the convenience. modify your reply accordingly then I would comment.
 
Kamisama said:
bP=cos(67.3)*cP
It is rarely necessary to calculate the actual angles from the sides of the right-angled triangle. Just work in terms of the trig functions of the angles.
 
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