How to be sure that a series isn't a fourier series of a derivable function

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the series \(\sum_{n = 1}^\infty \frac{1}{n}\sin (nx)\) can be classified as the Fourier series of a differentiable function. Participants are exploring the implications of the Dirichlet conditions and the properties of Fourier series coefficients.

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  • Participants are questioning the relationship between the series and the Dirichlet conditions, as well as the implications of square summability of Fourier coefficients. There is a discussion about the definition of Fourier series and the conditions that must be satisfied.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing definitions and clarifications regarding Fourier series and their coefficients. There is an exploration of whether the series in question meets the necessary conditions for being a Fourier series of a differentiable function.

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Some participants express uncertainty about specific definitions and conditions related to Fourier series, indicating a potential gap in understanding the foundational concepts involved.

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Hi there. I have this interesting problem which I don't know how to solve. I'll post it here because I think more people will se it, but I'm not sure if this is the proper subforum.



The problem says: How can be sure that [tex]\sum_{n = 1}^\infty \frac{1}{n}\sin (nx)[/tex] isn't the Fourier series of a derivable function?



I thought that it doesn't accomplish the Diritchlet postulates, but it actually doesn't mean that it isn't a Fourier series.



Does anyone know how to solve this?



Bye there and thanks.
 
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Remember that coefficients of Fourier series are in [itex]\ell^2[/itex]...
 
Sorry, I don't know what you mean with [tex]l^2[/tex]
 
[tex]\ell^2=\{(x_n)_n~\vert~\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}{|x_n|^2}<+\infty\}[/tex]

So basically, the coefficients of a Fourier series must be square summable. In fact, a sequence forms the coefficients of a Fourier series if and only if they are square summable!
 
Thanks. I think I'm not familiar with this definition. We've defined in class that a Fourier series it's a Fourier series if it accomplish Diritchlet conditions, and that the Fourier series are the series that minimizes the quadratic error.
 
Suppose:

[tex] f(x) \equiv \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}{\frac{\sin n \, x}{n}}[/tex]

Take the derivative term by term:

[tex] f'(x) = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}{\cos n \, x}[/tex]

Do the coefficients of this Fourier series form a convergent sum?
 
Thanks :)
 

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