How to Combine Gradient Uncertainty with other Uncertainty?

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To combine gradient uncertainty with other uncertainties in a speed of sound experiment, it's essential to account for both random and systematic uncertainties. The approach involves using a Pythagorean method to combine uncertainties from individual measurements, including digital reading and calibration uncertainties. Custom error bars can be plotted in Excel to reflect these combined uncertainties for each data point. For calculating the uncertainty of the gradient, it's important to check if Excel's trend line function accurately incorporates these uncertainties. Properly addressing these factors will enhance the reliability of the results.
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I did an experiment to measure the speed of sound(using two microphones and a hammer). I changed the distance between the two mics and calculated(using a fast timer) the time taken for the sound to reach from the start mic to the end mic. I made a graph(distance on x axis, time on y axis) on excel using my results and added a line of best fit. I need error bars and the uncertainty in the gradient. Also, I need to combine the uncertainty from the gradient with the random uncertainty, calibration and scale reading uncertainty(from meter stick). How can I do this?

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I know the formula for random uncertainty and the Pythagoras-like formula for combining uncertainties. I just don't know how to combine all of this with the gradient uncertainty.
 
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How can I do this?
In general: include uncorrelated uncertainties in the individual datapoints, make sure your fit takes those uncertainties into account (not sure if excel can do that). Correlated uncertainties need a different approach.
 
@mfb Thanks for the reply I did a little experimenting and I combined the random uncertainty for each of my times with the digital reading uncertainty(using ∆w^2 = ∆x^2 + ∆y^2 + ∆z^2, x = random uncertainty, y = scale/digital reading uncertainty, z= calibration uncertainty ) and also did the same with my distances. I then plotted these in my excel graph as a custom error bar for each of my points. Is this the correct way to go? How would I go about finding the uncertainty of the gradient now, with the vertical and horizontal error bars in my graph too?
 
Excel has a function for the uncertainty of parameters of linear functions, I don't know if you can also directly get them from a trend line, and I don't know if the uncertainties are taking into account properly (change them to see if the result changes).
 
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