How can I easily remove black from cupronickel after heating it?

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Using Sparex No. 2 effectively removes black oxidation from silver after heating, but it is not suitable for cupronickel quarters, which consist of 75% copper and 25% nickel. The oxidation removal process for cupronickel requires different solutions. Citric acid is recommended for mild action, while phosphoric acid-based liquid soldering flux offers medium action. Both should be used in a cold bath with agitation, avoiding quenching. For those shaping quarters into rings, a quenching solution that minimizes post-processing polishing is desired. However, achieving a clean finish may still require some hand polishing, as the heating process tends to leave oxidation that can be labor-intensive to remove.
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So I'm using sparex no.2 to remove the black from silver after I heat it. I just quench in the sparex solution and it removes the black instantly. I'm trying to heat a quarter and use sparex to remove the black but it's not working. The quarter is cupronickel which is a mix of 75% copper, 25% nickel. Any idea what solution I could use to remove the black from the cupronickel after heating it?
 
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Letsurf said:
75% copper, 25% nickel
Not in Wiki's description of U. S. "sandwich" quarters. You've got two different alloys in a bath committing electrochemistry on each other.
 
So what is the solution?
 
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If it's some sort of numismatic restoration, what is and is not acceptable is not something I know anything about.
 
Citric acid - mild action .

Phosphoric acid based liquid soldering flux - medium action

Cold bath and soak in each case with agitation . Do not quench .

Several stronger solutions are available but probably not nescessary .

Citric acid is usually quite adequate for removing oxides from a one time heat of clean metal .
 
Nidum said:
Citric acid - mild action .

Phosphoric acid based liquid soldering flux - medium action

Cold bath and soak in each case with agitation . Do not quench .

Several stronger solutions are available but probably not necessary .

Citric acid is usually quite adequate for removing oxides from a one time heat of clean metal .

Thanks for the tips. I heat, bend, reheat, bend the quarter to make rings. Is there something I can quench it in during this process so when I'm finished it will require minimum hand labor to polish? By the time I'm done shaping it now it is black from the heat and takes several minutes of intense hand polishing with steel wool to get the black off. With silver the sparex makes it a very simple process so I'm just looking for something I can use with the modern quarters that will make it easy.
 
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