How to Solve a Fluid Dynamics Problem with Bernoulli’s Equation?

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The discussion revolves around using Bernoulli's equation to solve a fluid dynamics problem involving a large water tank and pipes of different diameters. The gauge pressure in the water main is given as 9.8 E4 Pa, and the expected speed of water supply is 0.5 m/s. Participants express confusion about how to reconcile the pressure change with the differing pipe diameters and the implications of velocity changes. Questions arise regarding the geometry of the setup, such as the height measurement and whether the outlet pipe is full or discharging into free air. The problem is perceived as potentially poorly constructed, leading to uncertainty about how to explain it effectively.
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Homework Statement



A very large open water tank has a 50 cm diameter output pipe connected 10 m above the water main which is 6 cm in diameter. If the gauge pressure in the water main reads 9.8 E4 Pa what is the speed at which the water is supplied?
The answer should be 0.5 m/s but I can't see how with Bernoulli's equation. The gauge pressure given is exactly what the pressure change would be (roh g h) when height is the only factor. If the velocity term drops because of no velocity change tho, how can the pipe diameters be different?

Homework Equations



Bernoulli's

The Attempt at a Solution



The gauge pressure given is exactly what the pressure change would be (roh g h) when height is the only factor. If the velocity term drops because of no velocity change tho, how can the pipe diameters be different?
 
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fysics4fun said:

Homework Statement



A very large open water tank has a 50 cm diameter output pipe connected 10 m above the water main which is 6 cm in diameter. If the gauge pressure in the water main reads 9.8 E4 Pa what is the speed at which the water is supplied?
The answer should be 0.5 m/s but I can't see how with Bernoulli's equation. The gauge pressure given is exactly what the pressure change would be (roh g h) when height is the only factor. If the velocity term drops because of no velocity change tho, how can the pipe diameters be different?

Homework Equations



Bernoulli's

The Attempt at a Solution



The gauge pressure given is exactly what the pressure change would be (roh g h) when height is the only factor. If the velocity term drops because of no velocity change tho, how can the pipe diameters be different?

Hmm. As you say, the pressure in the inlet pipe corresponds to a head of water that is the same as the supposed elevation of the outlet pipe above it. Perhaps the precise geometry becomes significant. Is the 10m pipe separation center to center? Top of one to the bottom of the other? Is the outlet pipe actually full? Does it empty into free air, or an open pond at the same level? Is the pressure change with depth across the face of the outlet pipe significant (different flow rates across its cross-section)?
 
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I'm starting to think it's just a badly written problem, but I'd like a few more responses to give me confidence that I'm not missing something.

I REALLY appreciate your input- I've been dying waiting to hear from people...
 
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