How to Solve LaGrange Multiplier Problems for Intersection of Surfaces?

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Homework Statement



Consider the intersection of the elliptic paraboloid Z = X2+4Y2 , and the cylinder X2+Y2= 1. Use Lagrange multipliers to find the highest, and lowest points on the curve of intersection.

Homework Equations


The gradient equations of both functions.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have ∇f= <2X, 8Y> and ∇g= <2X, 2Y>. the constraint equation is X2+Y2 = 1.

I set the equations equal to get:

2X = (2X)λ 8Y = (2Y)λ

When I try to solve it always removes the variable. Where do I go from here to solve?
 
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Baumer8993 said:

Homework Statement



Consider the intersection of the elliptic paraboloid Z = X2+4Y2 , and the cylinder X2+Y2= 1. Use Lagrange multipliers to find the highest, and lowest points on the curve of intersection.


Homework Equations


The gradient equations of both functions.


The Attempt at a Solution



I have ∇f= <2X, 8Y> and ∇g= <2X, 2Y>. the constraint equation is X2+Y2 = 1.

I set the equations equal to get:

2X = (2X)λ 8Y = (2Y)λ

When I try to solve it always removes the variable. Where do I go from here to solve?

Look at the first equation ## 2x = 2x \lambda##. Can you cancel the ##2x## on both sides? Why, or why not?
 
I think you can, but it would just leave me with λ = 1.
 
Baumer8993 said:
I think you can, but it would just leave me with λ = 1.

OK, so? Work it through to the end.

BTW: there is another possibility having λ ≠ 1; can you see why?
 
I see that λ could also equal 4, but where do I go from plugging in the lambda values? I just end up with 2x=2x, and 8y=2Y, or do I need to use both λ lambda values at the same time?
 
Baumer8993 said:
I see that λ could also equal 4, but where do I go from plugging in the lambda values? I just end up with 2x=2x, and 8y=2Y, or do I need to use both λ lambda values at the same time?

You have three equations, one involving x and λ, one involving y and λ, and the constraint.
 
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