Ideal Gas Expansion State Properties & Exergy Balance

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics homework problem involving the expansion of Argon gas from one tank to another. The initial conditions include tank B containing 2 kg of Argon at 350 K and 5000 kPa, while tank A is empty. Participants analyze the final equilibrium state, focusing on determining the final temperature, pressure, entropy production, and exergy balance. Key points include the importance of recognizing that the tanks are insulated, preventing thermal equilibrium, and the necessity of applying the ideal gas law and first law of thermodynamics correctly. The conversation highlights the complexity of the analysis due to the adiabatic nature of the process and the need for careful consideration of energy changes.
Cora
Messages
10
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Two well-insulated rigid tanks of equal volume, tank A and tank B, are connected via a valve. Tank A is initially empty. Tank B has 2 kg of Argon at 350 K and 5000 kPa. The valve is opened and the Argon fills both tanks. State 2 is the final equilibrium state. The temperature and pressure of the room in which the tanks sit are 300 K and 100 kPa, respectively. Perform a closed system analysis.
a. Determine the volume of tank B.
b. Determine the final temperature.
c. Determine the final pressure.
d. Determine the entropy produced in the process.
e. Determine the exergy (or availability) destroyed in the process.
i. Using an exergy balance.
ii. Using the entropy produced.​
f. Determine the total exergy in tank B initially.

Homework Equations


Ideal Gas law:
PV = ZmRT​
First Law of Thermo
E2-E1 = Q - W + ∑m(h+v2/2+gz)​
Second Law of Thermo
S2-S1=int(1/Tb,1,2,dQ)+σ​

The Attempt at a Solution



PART A)
using tabulated values for Tc and Pc of Argon, I found Z (compressibility factor) to be 0.9945~1, so I'm treating the Argon as behaving like an ideal gas.
given TB1 and PB1, specific volume is found to be vB1=0.00137 m3/kg
VB = vB1*mB1
VB = 0.02914 m3

PART B)

My approach to find the temperatures would be to use conservation of internal energy between initial and final states.

U1 = U2
U1 = UA1 + UB1
U1 = uA1*mA1 + uB1*mA1
where tank A is initially evacuated, so mA1 = 0, therefor
U1 = uB1*mB1

and then for U2

U2 = uA2*mA2 + uB2*mB2
assuming from conservation of mass: mB1 = mA2 + mB2
and that since PA2=PB2 and TA2 = TB2, mA2 = mB2 = mB1/2​
U2 = (mB1/2)*(uA2 + uB2)
assuming uA2 = uB2 = .5*u2
U2 = (mB1/2)*(u2)
U2 = .5*mB1*u2

now equating U1 and U2:

uB1*mB1 = .5*mB1*u2
uB1 = .5*U2 = uB2 = uA2

so since I have uB1, TB1 and have equated the final specific internal energies to uB1, I can find the final temperature and move on. Yes?

PART C)
In order to find the pressure I would equate the specific volume of the tanks, resulting in
.5*vB1 = vB2 = vA2

next using final specific volume and final temperature to determine the final pressure.

Is this heading in the right direction?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
No. This assumes that the two tanks equilibrate thermally, such that uA2=uB2=uB1, and TA2=TB2=TB1. It also implies that pA2=pB2=pB1/2. However, the tanks are insulated, and so, the gases in the two tanks do not thermally equilibrate.

What is your assessment of what is happening to the gas in insulated tank B during the time that gas is seeping through the valve (while the system is in the process of equilibrating)?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
No. This assumes that the two tanks equilibrate thermally, such that uA2=uB2=uB1, and TA2=TB2=TB1. It also implies that pA2=pB2=pB1/2. However, the tanks are insulated, and so, the gases in the two tanks do not thermally equilibrate.

What is your assessment of what is happening to the gas in insulated tank B during the time that gas is seeping through the valve (while the system is in the process of equilibrating)?

Chet

The gas in tank B is expanding, or decreasing in Pressure (so also in Temperature).
 
Cora said:
The gas in tank B is expanding, or decreasing in Pressure (so also in Temperature).
So, are you saying that the gas remaining in the tank at any instant of time has been experiencing something very close to an adiabatic reversible expansion (particularly if the seepage rate through the valve is very slow)?
 
That's what it sounds like to me. So the 2nd law is where this is headed...
 
Cora said:
That's what it sounds like to me. So the 2nd law is where this is headed...
No. We are going to express everything in terms of the final pressure P, and then solve for P under the constraint that the change in internal energy of the overall system is zero. So, let's get started.

Given that the initial temperature and pressure in tank B is 350 K and 5000 kPa, in terms of P, what is the final temperature T in tank B?
Given the final volume in tank B is 0.02914 cubic meters, in terms of P, what is the final mass of argon in tank B?
 
for T2:
So if I'm not using the second law, the other equation I see T and P in is the ideal gas law. Can I use this even though I can't check the validity of the second state behaving as an ideal gas?

P2V2/T2=P1T1/V1
is it appropriate here to use V2 = 2*V1, since I've been told the tanks are equal in size? Then it would become:
T2=2*P2T1/P1

for m2:
the ideal gas law also seems appropriate here because it has P, V and m in it. Yeah?

mB2=P2V1/(R*T2)
 
Last edited:
None of this is correct. Our focus is on the gas that remains in tank B during and after the system equilibrates. This gas is experiencing and adiabatic reversible expansion. Do you know the relationship between temperature and pressure for an ideal gas experiencing an adiabatic reversible expansion? If not, what about the relationship between molar volume and pressure for an ideal gas experiencing and adiabatic reversible expansion?

Chet
 
Hey

So I followed similar approach to yours and I believe we get the same answer
my approach:

assumption 1: Argon is an ideal gas
mAB = mB (COM)

1st law:
E2- E1 =Q -W
since it is well insulated Q = 0 (Adiabatic)
and because it is rigid body I assumed there is boundary work so W = 0

From this I went on and
equated E2-E1=0
so U2-U1 +change in KE and PE =0 (assumption neglect PE and KE)

mAB * uAB = mA*uA + mBuB
since mA is 0 and mAB = mB
uAB = uB
so TempB = T2

for final pressure
we know that v2 = 2*vB
so P2 = (m*R_bar*TempB)/(2*vB)

which is approximately half PressureB

I got stuck in the last part of the question which is finding the total energy in tank B initially! :(
 
  • #10
Sarooj94 said:
Hey

So I followed similar approach to yours and I believe we get the same answer
my approach:

assumption 1: Argon is an ideal gas
mAB = mB (COM)

1st law:
E2- E1 =Q -W
since it is well insulated Q = 0 (Adiabatic)
and because it is rigid body I assumed there is boundary work so W = 0

From this I went on and
equated E2-E1=0
so U2-U1 +change in KE and PE =0 (assumption neglect PE and KE)

mAB * uAB = mA*uA + mBuB
since mA is 0 and mAB = mB
uAB = uB
so TempB = T2

for final pressure
we know that v2 = 2*vB
so P2 = (m*R_bar*TempB)/(2*vB)

which is approximately half PressureB

I got stuck in the last part of the question which is finding the total energy in tank B initially! :(
As I said earlier, this is only correct if the two tanks can reach thermal equilibrium with one another, but, according to the problem statement, they cannot.
 
  • #11
For a nice analysis of the change in tank B between the initial and final states of the system, see Example 6.10 in Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics by Moran, Shapiro, Boettner, and Bailey.
 
Back
Top