Ideal gas - monatomic or diatomic?

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The discussion centers on determining whether an ideal gas is monatomic or diatomic based on its heat capacity values. The problem involves 5 moles of gas heated from 300K to 500K at constant pressure, with a heat transfer of 29.1 kJ. By calculating the molar heat capacity at constant pressure (Cp) and dividing it by nR, participants deduce that the resulting value indicates the gas is diatomic. The calculations confirm that for a diatomic gas, Cp/nR equals 3.5, while for a monatomic gas, it would be 2.5. The conclusion reached is that the gas in question is diatomic.
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Homework Statement



5 moles of an idea gas at 300K at a pressure of 1.00 x 10^5 Pa is heated to 500K at constant pressure. The amount of heat transferred is 29.1kJ.

Determine whether a gas is monatomic or diatomic through consideration of the values of the molar heat capacity at constant pressure C sub c,m and at C sub v,m

Homework Equations


PV = nRT
C = dQ/dT
Cp = Cv + nR
Cv = f/2 nR where f = 3 for monatomic gas and f = 5 for diatomic gas

The Attempt at a Solution


No idea where to start... help please!
 
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shyguy79 said:

Homework Statement



5 moles of an idea gas at 300K at a pressure of 1.00 x 10^5 Pa is heated to 500K at constant pressure. The amount of heat transferred is 29.1kJ.

Determine whether a gas is monatomic or diatomic through consideration of the values of the molar heat capacity at constant pressure C sub c,m and at C sub v,m

Homework Equations


PV = nRT
C = dQ/dT
Cp = Cv + nR
Cv = f/2 nR where f = 3 for monatomic gas and f = 5 for diatomic gas

The Attempt at a Solution


No idea where to start... help please!

Hi shyguy79! :smile:

In a constant pressure process you have Cp=dQ/dT.
Can you calculate Cp from that?
What would you get if you divide Cp by nR?
 
Where dQ = 29.1x10^3 and dT = 200K then Cp = 145.5 J K^-1

Is nR = 5 x 8.314 = 41.57 ? but why would you do this?

so Cp/nr = 3.5 ? How does this relate?
 
Yep. That is correct.

What would Cp/nR be for a monatomic gas?
And for a diatomic gas?
 
Cp = (f/2 +1) nR so then Cp/nR = (f/2 +1)

so for a monatomic gas... 3/2 + 1 = 2.5
for a diatomic gas... 5/2 +1 = 3.5

so the gas is diatomic?
 
Right. :)
 
Thank you so much! I've been stuck on this for ages!
 
Just one question though what equation would be referenced for dividing Cp by nR?
 
Not sure what you mean...?

You've used 3 of your relevant equations and solved for "f".
 
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doh! Yeah, just noticed - thanks again!
 
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