If light has no charge and mass, how can it have an electric field?

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Light, while massless and chargeless, interacts with electric fields as photons are excitations of the electromagnetic field. When a positive test charge is placed near light, it will exhibit movement in alternating directions due to the electric field's influence. This behavior is observable in practical applications, such as radio transmissions, which rely on the modulation of electron energy. Photons cannot exist independently of the electromagnetic field, as they are the quanta of this field. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the relationship between photons and electromagnetic fields in understanding light's behavior.
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Since it does have an electric field, if we were to put a positive test charge near it, would it exhibit an inward field or an outward field?
 
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A photon doesn't produce an electric field, it is a neutral particle as you stated in the title. Photons are the excitations of the electric field.
 
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A test charge would move first in one direction, then the other.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
A test charge would move first in one direction, then the other.

And it does this, frequently, up in the ionosphere - or you wouldn't hear HF transmissions from all over the World.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
A test charge would move first in one direction, then the other.

Do you know of any video or specific experiments that show this behavior? I'm really interested.
 
Jd0g33 said:
Do you know of any video or specific experiments that show this behavior? I'm really interested.

"Direct measurement of light waves", E. Goulielmakis et al., Science 305, 1267 (2004). http://www.attoworld.de/Documents/papers/Science/Science305p1267_2004.pdf.

These are not charges at rest moving back and forth, but you see a modulation in the kinetic energy/momentum of moving electrons, which is close enough, I guess.
 
Jd0g33 said:
Do you know of any video or specific experiments that show this behavior? I'm really interested.

Turn on a radio. It uses this exact behavior.
 
Jd0g33 said:
Do you know of any video or specific experiments that show this behavior? I'm really interested.

Yes. It's called a "radio antenna".
 
Funny, now I'm curious too... can there exist a photon without some sort of external/residual/whatever of a field? I know the e and m fields balance/cancel when traveling at c... really? And apologies, holiday weekdnd, kinda been drinking.
 
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WhatIsGravity said:
Funny, now I'm curious too... can there exist a photon without some sort of external/residual/whatever of a field? I know the e and m fields balance/cancel when traveling at c... really? And apologies, holiday weekdnd, kinda been drinking.

A photon is the quanta of interaction of the EM field, so no, it cannot exist without the EM field.
 
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Drakkith said:
A photon is the quanta of interaction of the EM field, so no, it cannot exist without the EM field.

Does a photon create it's own EM field, as it goes, or is that field just there?
 
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WhatIsGravity said:
Does a photon create it's own EM field, as it goes, or is that field just there?

To my knowledge, the field always exists.
 
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