Impedance & complex currents & voltages

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The discussion focuses on solving problem 19C related to impedance and complex currents and voltages. It emphasizes that instantaneous power is derived from the product of real voltage and current, not their complex forms. To find average power, one must integrate the instantaneous power over a full cycle and divide by the period. The complex representation of voltage and current is valid for linear operations, but for calculating power, the real parts must be used. Understanding that power and voltage are real quantities is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement


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Just problem 19C.

Homework Equations


P=IV=Ieiwt*Veiwt. T

The Attempt at a Solution


P = IVe2iwt=IVcos(2wt). What did I do wrong?
 
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It asks for the time average. Integrate it over a cycle, i.e. t = 0 to 2π/ω.
 
gimak said:

Homework Statement


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Just problem 19C.
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Homework Equations


P=IV=Ieiwt*Veiwt. T

The Attempt at a Solution


P = IVe2iwt=IVcos(2wt). What did I do wrong?

The instantaneous power is the product of the real voltage and the real current. The complex form of power and voltage can be used for linear operations only (addition, multiplication with constant). In general, the current and voltage need not be in phase.
The complex voltage U and complex current I are related through the complex impedance Z=Ze: U=ZI. Writing in the Euler form, I=I0eiωt, U=ZI=I0Z ei(ωt+φ)=U0ei(ωt+φ).
The instantaneous power is the product or the real part of the complex current (I(t)=I0cos(ωt) with the real part of the complex voltage U(t)=U0cos(ωt+φ)), where U0=I0Z. The problem asks the average power, so you integrate the instantaneous power for a period and divide by the period T.
 
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The complex form of power and voltage can be used for linear operations only (addition, multiplication with constant).

So this means that we can't use their complex form because whatever operators we use on them are only linear? Also, is another way to understand this is that since power & voltage are real, that means we must take their real part when doing operations with them?
 
gimak said:
So this means that we can't use their complex form because whatever operators we use on them are only linear? Also, is another way to understand this is that since power & voltage are real, that means we must take their real part when doing operations with them?
You can do linear operations with the complex voltages and currants, but in any other case, the real quantities should be used.
 
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