Implicit Differentiation Problem

In summary, the curve given by X^2+4y^2=7+3xy has a derivative of dy/dx=3y-2x/8y-3x. At the point P with x-coordinate 3, the line tangent to the curve is horizontal and the y-coordinate of P is 2. The value of d^2y/dx^2 at point P is -2/7 and there is a local maximum at this point. This is determined by the fact that the slope of dy/dx is decreasing and the curve is increasing for x<3 and decreasing for x>3.
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Consider the curve given by X^2+4y^2=7+3xy
a) show that dy/dx=3y-2x/8y-3x
b) show that there is a point P with x-cooridnate 3 at which the line tangent to the curve at P is horizontal. Find the y-cooridnate of P.
c)find the value of d^2y/dx^2 at the point P found in part (b). Does the curve have a local maximum, a local minimum, or neither at the point P? Justify your answer.

(a) is easy. All you do is find the derivative.

For (b), I got the point (3,2) by plugging 3 into the original equation and got 2.

For (c), the value I got was -2/7 by finding the second derivative and plugging (3,2) for the x's and y's. I need to know if this is right and if there are any max's or min's at this point. Thanks.
 
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  • #2
-2/7 is correct. You know that dy/dx is 0 at the point, so you know it has to be either a maximum, a minimum, or a saddle point. Intuitively what do you think it should be, given that d^2y/dx^2 is less than 0? If it is less than 0 it means that the slope is decreasing--the slope is changing to become more negative. What would that mean in terms of maximum or minimum?
 
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Slope of dy/dx is decreasing and is 0 at x= 3. That is, dy/dx is positive for x< 3 and negative for x> 3. y itself is increasing for x< 3, and decreasing for x>3. What does that tell you?
 
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Since y is increasing when x<3 and decreasing when x>3, does that mean there is a local maximum?
 
  • #5
Yes. Draw a picture of that situation.
 
  • #6
Alright, thanks a lot for all of your help. I believe this graph looks like a slanted ellipse.
 

What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a mathematical technique used to find the derivative of an equation that is not explicitly in the form of y=f(x). This means that instead of having y as a function of x, both x and y are present on both sides of the equation.

Why is implicit differentiation useful?

Implicit differentiation allows us to find the derivative of a function without having to explicitly solve for y. This is helpful when the equation is too complicated or impossible to solve for y, or when it is not necessary to know the exact value of y.

How do you perform implicit differentiation?

To perform implicit differentiation, we treat y as a function of x and use the chain rule to differentiate both sides of the equation with respect to x. This allows us to find the derivative of y with respect to x, denoted as dy/dx.

What are some common applications of implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is commonly used in physics and engineering to solve problems involving rates of change, such as finding the velocity or acceleration of an object. It is also used in economics and finance to analyze relationships between variables.

What are some common mistakes to avoid when using implicit differentiation?

One common mistake is forgetting to use the chain rule when differentiating y with respect to x. Another mistake is not properly simplifying the derivative after differentiating both sides of the equation. It is also important to pay attention to the placement of parentheses and to use the correct notation for the derivative, dy/dx.

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