Implicitly differentiating PDE (multivariable calculus)

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The problem involves finding the value of dz/dx at the point (1,1,1) for the equation xy + z3x - 2yz = 0, which defines z as a function of the independent variables x and y. The context is multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on implicit differentiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule and chain rule in differentiating the term z3x. There are questions about the correctness of the differentiation steps and the resulting equations. Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of multivariable calculus concepts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the differentiation process and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the chain rule, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note their limited experience with multivariable calculus, which may affect their confidence in applying differentiation techniques correctly. There is also mention of potential complexities in the resulting equations.

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The problem:
Find the value of dz/dx at the point (1,1,1) if the equation xy+z3x-2yz=0 defines z as a function of the two independent variables x and y and the partial derivative exists.

I don't know how to approach the z3x part. I thought you would use the product rule and get 3(dz/dx)2x + z3. But if that is right, the final equation looks something like

y + 3x(dz/dx)2 + z3 - 2y(dz/dx) = 0

And I don't think that is right. The only way I know to solve that would be with the quadratic equation and that gives a complex value. Am I forgeting the chain rule somewhere or just way off on approaching this problem?
 
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I have done very little multivariable so this could easily be wrong, but if you implicitly differentiated z^3x shouldn't you get 3z^2x*dz/dx + z^3?
 
Frillth said:
I have done very little multivariable so this could easily be wrong, but if you implicitly differentiated z^3x shouldn't you get 3z^2x*dz/dx + z^3?

That's right because you have the 3z2x(dz/dx) + z3(dx/dx). I don't know what I was thinking... Thank You!
 
You didn't apply the chain rule, remember df(u)/dx = f(u)'*du/dx
 

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