Inclined Plane Problem with change of COM

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The problem involves a block of mass 10kg moving along an inclined plane at an angle of 30°. The block's center of gravity is raised by 3m, and there is a decrease in kinetic energy of 50J. Participants are tasked with determining the magnitude and direction of a constant force acting parallel to the incline, under the assumption of a frictionless surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between changes in kinetic and potential energy, questioning how the center of mass can be elevated and why the energy lost does not equal the energy gained. There are attempts to apply the work-energy theorem and explore the implications of the forces acting on the block.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance regarding the work-energy theorem and the relationship between potential and kinetic energy. Multiple interpretations of the energy changes and the forces involved are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of energy conservation in the context of the problem, noting the discrepancy between the kinetic energy lost and the potential energy gained, while also considering the effects of the applied force.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass 10kg moves along a surface inclined 30° to the horizontal. The centre of
gravity of the block is elevated by 3m and the kinetic energy of the block decreases by 50J.
The block is acted upon by a constant force Rparallel to the incline and by the force of
gravity. Assume frictionless surfaces and let g= 9.81 m/s**2.
Determine the magnitude and direction of the constant force R.





Homework Equations



ΔK = m*(Vb^2 - Va^2)*(1/2) , ΔU=mgz



The Attempt at a Solution


Since i am unable to express mathëmatically the ""The centre of
gravity of the block is elevated by 3m and the kinetic energy of the block decreases by 50J""
i will try to ignore it for now.

The force R can be either applied to the left or the right,we don't know yet.I will assume that it is towards the right,if not then the sign will be minus in my final calculations.

-- ΣFy = 0 , N=Wy=mgcos30°
( the COM being the origin and x-axis parallel to the inclined surface)

-- ΣFx = Wx - R

i) How do we even change the COM of a block ?
ii)Why is the kinetic energy lost ( 50J)not equal to the potential energy gained ?
In other words 50 <> m*g*( (h+3)-h) which makes sense mathematically but since energy is conserved where does it go ?

I am really confused guys !
 
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Hello,

Check this (Work-energy theorem).

Also, at the beginning the task says that the force R is parallel to the incline.
 
Thank you for your reply.

Since it says that we are only interested in the change in PE then PE = 3mg right ?

so the change in energy is 50 J therefore 50 - 3mg = constant ?

What about kinetic energy ?
 
DabaDuBa said:
Thank you for your reply.

Since it says that we are only interested in the change in PE then PE = 3mg right ?

so the change in energy is 50 J therefore 50 - 3mg = constant ?

What about kinetic energy ?

Your kinetic energy decreases by 50 J. Your potential energy increases by almost 300 J (3*10*9,81).

That means you have wasted only 50 J of kinetic energy to lift the block 3 meters up, but to do that you need ~300 J. That means some force is acting up the way.

Check the formula here.

What is the initial kinetic and potential energy?
 

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