Increase in spin rate as object collases to black hole

In summary, the conversation discusses the physics inside a black hole, the measurability of its spin, and the possibility of an increase in spin before the black hole forms. The existence of a hard radius and the theory of mass inflation are also mentioned. However, the interior of spinning black holes remains a relatively unexplored topic.
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It has been said that physics still occur inside a black hole, excluding the singularity. It's just that we can't observe the physics. The spin of black hole is measurable. What I want to know is; does the INCREASE in spin as the object gets ever smaller stop increasing at the moment in becomes a black hole? Certainly the spin doesn't increase to infinity. If the observed spin did continue to increase for a bit before coming to a stop would this would imply a hard radius below the event horizon? Has this been specifically excluded? If anyone has a link to the subject of spin as an object transitions to becoming a black hole I'd appreciated it.
 
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hexexpert said:
It has been said that physics still occur inside a black hole, excluding the singularity. It's just that we can't observe the physics. The spin of black hole is measurable. What I want to know is; does the INCREASE in spin as the object gets ever smaller stop increasing at the moment in becomes a black hole? Certainly the spin doesn't increase to infinity. If the observed spin did continue to increase for a bit before coming to a stop would this would imply a hard radius below the event horizon? Has this been specifically excluded? If anyone has a link to the subject of spin as an object transitions to becoming a black hole I'd appreciated it.

You can't observe the frequency of the spin. You can observe the angular momentum (by its frame-dragging effect), but that is constant in the absence of external interactions.
 
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Also, the singularity in a
Kerr black hole is not the same as the singularity in a Schwarzschild black hole. It is called a ring singularity because it does not collapse down to zero radius.
 
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You might find this link of interest-

http://people.sissa.it/~rezzolla/Whisky/WhiskyI/
 
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hexexpert said:
What I want to know is; does the INCREASE in spin as the object gets ever smaller stop increasing at the moment in becomes a black hole? Certainly the spin doesn't increase to infinity. If the observed spin did continue to increase for a bit before coming to a stop would this would imply a hard radius below the event horizon? Has this been specifically excluded? If anyone has a link to the subject of spin as an object transitions to becoming a black hole I'd appreciated it.

If the body undergoing collapse is rotating too fast in the first place (eg above the Kerr limit), then it will not collapse into a black hole. If it collapses, the only externally observable property describing its rotation is the angular momentum, which is a conserved quantity (it can increase or decrease if the black hole is not isolated).

Interiors of realistic spinning black holes remain a hard and vastly unexplored topic. A seminal paper by Poisson and Israel [1] presented the theory of mass inflation: the unstable inward and outward pressure and energy flows near the inner lightlike horizon should enter a runaway amplification due to their own gravitational effect – this could be indeed a form of "hard radius" where most infalling matter could smash into before a further collapse.

[1] E. Poisson, W. Israel, "Internal structure of black holes", Phys. Rev. D 41, 1796–809 (1990).
 
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FAQ: Increase in spin rate as object collases to black hole

What is spin rate?

Spin rate is the measure of how fast an object is rotating around its own axis.

What is a black hole?

A black hole is a region in space where the gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, including light, can escape from it.

How does an object's spin rate increase as it collapses into a black hole?

As an object collapses into a black hole, its spin rate increases due to the conservation of angular momentum. As the object's size decreases, its rotation speeds up, similar to an ice skater pulling their arms in while spinning.

What factors affect the increase in spin rate as an object collapses into a black hole?

The increase in spin rate as an object collapses into a black hole is affected by the mass and angular momentum of the object, as well as the strength of the black hole's gravitational pull.

Is there a limit to how fast an object can spin as it collapses into a black hole?

Yes, there is a theoretical limit known as the "maximum spin rate" or the "spin limit". This is the point at which a black hole's spin cannot increase any further due to the speed of light and the event horizon of the black hole.

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