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The discussion focuses on proving the commutative property of multiplication with the Identity Matrix, specifically showing that ##IA = AI## for an ##m \times n## matrix A. The derivation utilizes Einstein notation and standard notation to express the equations ##(IA)_{ij} = A_{ij}## and ##(AI)_{ij} = A_{ij}##. The participant expresses concern over the use of repeated indices in Einstein notation and suggests using explicit notation for clarity in mathematical exercises.

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Homework Statement
Prove that multiplication with the Identity Matrix is commutative
Relevant Equations
My approach is to compute expressions for ##IA## and ##AI## and show that ##IA = AI##

Of course If ##A## is an ##m \times n## matrix it would be ##I_m## on the left and ##I_n## on the right.
Terms only generate when ##k = i ##

##\left( IA \right)_{ij} = \delta_{ik}A_{kj} = \delta_{ii}A_{ij} = A_{ij}##

##\left( AI \right)_{ij} = A_{ik} \delta_{kj} = A_{ii} \delta_{ij} = A_{ij}##

Therefore ##IA = AI##

I’m bothered by three repeated indices so I’m questioning my derivation.
 
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PhDeezNutz said:
Homework Statement: Prove that multiplication with the Identity Matrix is commutative
Relevant Equations: My approach is to compute expressions for ##IA## and ##AI## and show that ##IA = AI##

Of course If ##A## is an ##m \times n## matrix it would be ##I_m## on the left and ##I_n## on the right.

Terms only generate when ##k = i ##

##\left( IA \right)_{ij} = \delta_{ik}A_{kj} = \delta_{ii}A_{ij} = A_{ij}##

##\left( AI \right)_{ij} = A_{ik} \delta_{kj} = A_{ii} \delta_{ij} = A_{ij}##

Therefore ##IA = AI##

I’m bothered by three repeated indices so I’m questioning my derivation.
If you are using the (Einstein) notation with summation suppressed, then technically you must go directly:
$$\delta_{ik}A_{kj} = A_{ij}$$If you are using standard notation, then there is no limit to how many terms you can have with the same index.
 
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So does that mean I’m splitting hairs over what is essentially a definition?
 
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So does that mean I’m splitting hairs over what is essentially a definition?
Not really. The Einstein notation cannot handle the second of these expressions:
$$\sum_i a_ib_i \equiv a_ib_i$$$$a_ib_i \ \ \text{for some specific i}$$It also can't handle something like:
$$\exists i: a_i = b_i$$Instead:
$$(\forall i: a_i = b_i) \equiv a_i = b_i$$
 
My advice is to use explicit notation for math exercises and keep Einstein for physics later on.

I am unhappy with $$\left( AI \right)_{ij} = \sum_k A_{ik} \delta_{kj} = \sum_? A_{ii} \delta_{ij} = A_{ij}$$and would stay with $$\left( AI \right)_{ij} = \sum_k A_{ik} \delta_{kj} = A_{ij} $$because ## \sum A_{ii} \delta_{ij} \ne A_{ij}##

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