Integrating in Polar Coordinates: Ω Region

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates over a specified region Ω defined by the inequalities 1/2 ≤ x ≤ 1 and 0 ≤ y ≤ sqrt(1-x^2). Participants are exploring how to express the variables in polar coordinates and determine the limits of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to convert the given rectangular coordinates into polar coordinates, specifically focusing on expressing r in terms of θ. There are discussions about the boundaries of the region and how to set up the integral correctly. Some participants question the equations of the boundaries in polar form and the implications for the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants sharing insights about the conversion process and the relationships between x, y, r, and θ. Some have drawn diagrams to aid in understanding the setup, while others are clarifying the boundaries and limits of integration. Guidance has been offered regarding the expressions needed for the boundaries in polar coordinates.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of converting the boundaries of the region into polar coordinates, which includes addressing the non-constant nature of r and the need to determine the limits for θ. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the setup aligns with the original problem constraints.

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Homework Statement


∫∫dydx

Where the region Ω: 1/2≤x≤1 0 ≤ y ≤ sqrt(1-x^2)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The question asked to solve the integral using polar coordinates. The problem I have is getting r in terms of θ. I solved the integral in rectangular ordinates using a trig sub and found the answer to be (π/6) - (√3)/8.Thanks for all input.
 
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whattheheckV said:

Homework Statement


∫∫dydx

Where the region Ω: 1/2≤x≤1 0 ≤ y ≤ sqrt(1-x^2)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The question asked to solve the equation using polar coordinates. The problem I have is getting r in terms of θ. I solved the integral in rectangular ordinates using a trig sub and found the answer to be (π/6) - (√3)/8.Thanks for all input.

Have you drawn a picture? Remember ##r## goes from ##r## on the inner curve to ##r## on the outer curve. What is the equation of ##x = \frac 1 2## in polar coordinates? What is the equation of the circle? And from the picture you should be able to see the ##\theta## limits.
 
whattheheckV said:

Homework Statement


∫∫dydx

Where the region Ω: 1/2≤x≤1 0 ≤ y ≤ sqrt(1-x^2)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The question asked to solve the equation using polar coordinates.
You're not solving an equation -- you're setting up and evaluating an integral
whattheheckV said:
The problem I have is getting r in terms of θ. I solved the integral in rectangular ordinates using a trig sub and found the answer to be (π/6) - (√3)/8.
The integrand is pretty straight forward; probably the hardest part is figuring out the limits of integration. A ray extending out from the pole (0, 0) goes through the vertical line, x = 1, to the circle. Convert the equation of the vertical line to polar from. The circle part is simple.
 
I have drawn the picture and it is very straightforward. The problem I am having is that the radius is not constant so i need to get r in terms of theta. http://www5b.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP17811i1c25cda73i33d700001h169b9cb5h0603d?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=200.&h=193.&cdf=Coordinates&cdf=Tooltips
 
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LCKurtz said:
Have you drawn a picture? Remember ##r## goes from ##r## on the inner curve to ##r## on the outer curve. What is the equation of ##x = \frac 1 2## in polar coordinates? What is the equation of the circle? And from the picture you should be able to see the ##\theta## limits.

whattheheckV said:
I have drawn the picture and it is very straightforward. The problem I am having is that the radius is not constant so i need to get r in terms of theta. http://www5b.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP17811i1c25cda73i33d700001h169b9cb5h0603d?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=200.&h=193.&cdf=Coordinates&cdf=Tooltips

OK, so you have drawn the picture. Now answer the questions I asked in my reply above.
 
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whattheheckV said:
I have drawn the picture and it is very straightforward. The problem I am having is that the radius is not constant so i need to get r in terms of theta. http://www5b.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP17811i1c25cda73i33d700001h169b9cb5h0603d?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=200.&h=193.&cdf=Coordinates&cdf=Tooltips
Do you know how to express x in terms of r and θ ?
 
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SammyS said:
Do you know how to express x in terms of r and θ ?
As in x=rcos (θ) and y=rsin (θ) ?
 
whattheheckV said:
As in x=rcos (θ) and y=sin (θ) ?
Good the left hand boundary of the region is x = 2.

That should give you a relation in terms of r and θ for that boundary.

The right hand boundary (curved boundary) should be easy in terms of r .
 
SammyS said:
Good the left hand boundary of the region is x = 2.

You mean ##x = \frac 1 2##.
 
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LCKurtz said:
You mean ##x = \frac 1 2##.
Right!
 
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Ok so using the conversion I found the bounds of r from (1/2)sec(θ) to 1

Thanks for the input
 
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whattheheckV said:
Ok so using the conversion I found the bounds of r from (1/2)sec(θ) to 1

Thanks for the input
Yes. You're welcome.
 
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whattheheckV said:
Ok so using the conversion I found the bounds of r from (1/2)sec(θ) to 1

Thanks for the input

And what bounds did you get for ##\theta##?
 

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