Integration in Polar - polar coordinate

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates for the function f(x,y) = xy, constrained by x ≥ 0, y ≥ 0, and the circular boundary x² + y² ≤ 4.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the limits of integration for the polar coordinates, questioning the appropriateness of using 2sec(θ) as an upper limit for r. There are attempts to clarify the boundaries defined by the circular region.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integration limits and expressing uncertainty about their approaches. Some participants have offered insights regarding potential overcomplications in the setup.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the boundary conditions, particularly whether the limits for r should be from 0 to 2 or involve a more complex expression. The discussion also touches on the implications of u-substitution in the context of the integral.

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Homework Statement


f(x,y) = xy
x ≥ 0, y ≥ 0, [itex]x^{2}[/itex] + [itex]y^{2}[/itex] ≤ 4


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex][itex]f^{2secθ}_{0}[/itex] rcosθ * rsinθ * r drdθ

I just wanted to check... is this right?? because I really don't think it is
 
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DrunkApple said:

Homework Statement


f(x,y) = xy
x ≥ 0, y ≥ 0, [itex]x^{2}[/itex] + [itex]y^{2}[/itex] ≤ 4


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex][itex]f^{2secθ}_{0}[/itex] rcosθ * rsinθ * r drdθ

I just wanted to check... is this right?? because I really don't think it is

Why are you putting the upper limit for r to be 2*sec(theta)? The outer boundary is just a circle, isn't it?
 
Dick said:
Why are you putting the upper limit for r to be 2*sec(theta)? The outer boundary is just a circle, isn't it?
right! in terms of x, the bound should be from 0 to 2, but since x = 2 is rcos = 2, doesn't r becomes 2sec? or am I really really wrong and fault?
OH WAIT
is it just bounded by 0 to 2?

OH OH WAIT I JUST HAD AN EPIC EPIPHANY! THIS IS U SUBSTITUTION!
 
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DrunkApple said:
right! in terms of x, the bound should be from 0 to 2, but since x = 2 is rcos = 2, doesn't r becomes 2sec? or am I really really wrong and fault?
OH WAIT
is it just bounded by 0 to 2?

OH OH WAIT I JUST HAD AN EPIC EPIPHANY! THIS IS U SUBSTITUTION!

Uh, the boundary isn't x=2. It's x^2+y^2=4. u-substitution?? I think you are overcomplicating this.
 
[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex][itex]f^{2}_{0}[/itex] rcosθ * rsinθ * r drdθ
So it's not this?
 
DrunkApple said:
[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex][itex]f^{2}_{0}[/itex] rcosθ * rsinθ * r drdθ
So it's not this?

That's it.
 
yes so I'll go head and calculate all this because there seems to be a problem and I don't know if it's calculation error or book error

[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex][itex]f^{2secθ}_{0}[/itex] [itex]r^{3}[/itex]cosθ * rsinθ * drdθ

=[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex]([itex]r^{4}[/itex]cosθsinθ)/4 * drdθ

=4[itex]f^{pi/2}_{0}[/itex]cosθsinθ dθ

After u substitution...

=4[itex]f^{1}_{0}[/itex]u du

=4?
 
The integral from 0 to 1 of u*du isn't 1.
 
oh oh wow... How could I miss that...
Thank you very much ;D
 

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