Interference Fringes in a Diffraction envelope

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The discussion revolves around the interference fringes produced in a diffraction experiment involving atoms with a de Broglie wavelength of 45 pm. The setup includes two slits, each with a width of 1 micrometer and separated by a distance of 8 micrometers, with the detection plane located 1.95 meters away. Participants are exploring the relationship between the diffraction envelope and the interference pattern.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the width of the diffraction envelope and the number of interference fringes that fit within it. There are questions about the intersection of the diffraction envelopes and the conditions under which certain maxima appear or do not appear due to the diffraction envelope's influence.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships governing the diffraction and interference patterns, including the significance of the integer values of m in the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to count the maxima within the diffraction envelope, with specific values being suggested. The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions and clarifying definitions.

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Participants note that the teacher may require a detailed demonstration of the calculations involved, particularly regarding the behavior of the interference pattern at certain integer values of m. There is also a mention of the need to consider the phase differences across the slits in the context of the diffraction envelope's effect on the interference pattern.

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My question is at https://imgur.com/a/lDOUzjY . The de Broglie wavelength of the atoms in question is 45 pm. The distance from the slits to the detection plane is 1.95m. Each slit width is 1 micrometer. The distance between the slits is 8 micrometers.

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y_{min} = λL/a where λ is the wavelength, L is the distance between the slits and the detection plane, and a is the slit width. This is for a minimum in a diffraction experiment.

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The width of the diffraction envelope is 2y=2(λL/a)=175.5 micrometers where y is the distance from the central maximum to the first minimum(either above or below it). My question is about the number of interference fringes that fit in the envelope. Is it the intersection of the two diffraction envelopes of the two slits and not the single slit envelope of the first part?
 
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Usually the letter ## b ## us used for slit width. The diffraction envelope has its zeros when ## m \lambda=b \sin(\theta) ## with integer ## m \neq 0 ##. The question is asking how many maxima do you find between the ## \theta ## corresponding to ## m=-1 ## and ## m=+1 ##. The maxima of the interference pattern are found where ## m \lambda=d \sin(\theta) ##, and this time integer ## m=0 ## is included. Here ## d ## is the distance between slits. ## \\ ## You need to find the largest ## m=m_c ## where ## \theta ## is still less than the place where the diffraction envelope first goes to zero that you found above. Then to count how many maxima you have including ## m=0 ## inside that envelope. That count is a very simple ## 2m_c+1 ##. ## \\ ## And let me give you what may be a helpful hint: I think you will find that ## m=8 ## of the second part lands right on the ## m=1 ## of the first part. Here, that maximum will not appear because the diffraction envelope gets multiplied by the interference pattern intensity result (for very narrow slits or point sources), giving zero intensity there. It should be fairly obvious what ## m_c ## is. And note that the wider the slit, the narrower the diffraction envelope becomes. Point sources and thin slits have very wide diffraction envelopes.
 
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Usually the letter ## b ## us used for slit width. The diffraction envelope has its zeros when ## m \lambda=b \sin(\theta) ## with integer ## m \neq 0 ##. The question is asking how many maxima do you find between the ## \theta ## corresponding to ## m=-1 ## and ## m=+1 ##. The maxima of the interference pattern are found where ## m \lambda=d \sin(\theta) ##, and this time integer ## m=0 ## is included. Here ## d ## is the distance between slits. ## \\ ## You need to find the largest ## m=m_c ## where ## \theta ## is still less than the place where the diffraction envelope first goes to zero that you found above. Then to count how many maxima you have including ## m=0 ## inside that envelope. That count is a very simple ## 2m_c+1 ##. ## \\ ## And let me give you what may be a helpful hint: I think you will find that ## m=8 ## of the second part lands right on the ## m=1 ## of the first part. Here, that maximum will not appear because the diffraction envelope, (the wider the slit, the narrower the diffraction envelope), gets multiplied by the interference pattern intensity result (for very narrow slits or point sources), giving zero intensity there. It should be fairly obvious what ## m_c ## is.
m_c = 7

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Yoki said:
m_c = 7
If this is a homework assignment, your teacher will want you to show your work though of what happens for ## m=8 ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
If this is a homework assignment, your teacher will want you to show your work though of what happens for ## m=8 ##.
Why does the diffraction envelope get multiplied by the interference pattern intensity result?
 
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Why does the diffraction envelope get multiplied by the interference pattern intensity result?
This follows from a computation/superposition to compute the total electric field, keeping track of the phases at each location including taking account of the phase difference that will occur across the different positions off the individual slits. For the case of slits with identical widths, the computation results in a common factor that occurs in all of the slits which is the diffraction envelope. The remaining factor is the interference pattern factor from the slits being treated as point sources. I will try to find you a "link"... Try this: https://sites.uAlberta.ca/~pogosyan/teaching/PHYS_130/FALL_2010/lectures/lect36/lecture36.html
 
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