Is a=g/3 the only solution or are there other possible solutions?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation represented as xg = x*(dv/dt) + v^2, where the original poster seeks to find a constant 'a' in the solution form v = at. The context involves exploring the relationship between 'a' and gravitational acceleration 'g'.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to relate 'a' as a function of 'g' by assuming a = kg for some constant k, and questions the validity of this assumption given that both are constants. Other participants engage in clarifying the nature of constants versus variables in this context.

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Participants are actively exploring the implications of assuming a relationship between 'a' and 'g', with some suggesting that the ratio being constant does not imply a functional dependency. The conversation includes considerations of whether 'g' can be treated as a variable in different gravitational fields, leading to further insights about the nature of constants in the problem.

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There is an underlying assumption that 'g' is constant for the purpose of solving the problem, though the possibility of it being variable in different contexts is also raised. The discussion reflects on the implications of these assumptions on the solution process.

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Homework Statement


xg=x*(dv/dt)+v^2 is a differential equation
Which has a solution of the form v=at
Where a is a constant.Find a

Homework Equations



dv/dt=v*(dv/dx)
V=dx/dt
A=dv/dt=d^2x/dt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed 'a' as a function of g
That is a=kg for some constant k
And proceeded
I did get the correct answer a=g/3
My question is since both a and g are accelerations and constants
Is it correct to assume one as a function of the other?
For 2 arbitrary constants a and b, we have (a=kb) for another constant 'k' where a and b are never equal to zero at the same time
I hope my approach is correct
Any confirmations and insights are much appreciated!
UchihaClan13[/B]
 
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I can post the rest of the solution if required
All I need is some confirmation

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Since they are constants, you have not really assumed one is a fixed function of the other. Rather, you have assumed that the ratio between them is also a constant, which is trivially true.
 
Yeah sorry
That's what I did
But y=kx (say)
Doesn't this lead to y=f (x)
For different values of x, won't we have different values of y
The only difference with this case and my original one is that
In my original one, both were constants
While in this one, both are variables
X being the independent variable and y being the dependent one

Is my reasoning correct then??UchihaClan13
 
UchihaClan13 said:
Yeah sorry
That's what I did
But y=kx (say)
Doesn't this lead to y=f (x)
For different values of x, won't we have different values of y
The only difference with this case and my original one is that
In my original one, both were constants
While in this one, both are variables
X being the independent variable and y being the dependent one

Is my reasoning correct then??UchihaClan13
Say we consider g to be a variable; we might run the same experiment in a different gravitational field. You say you assumed a=kg for some constant k, but you never used the assumption that it was constant. So instead, you could say let a, as function of g, be g times some other function of g, namely k(g). That would be quite valid and general.
But to solve the problem, you must assume dg/dt=0. You are given da/dt=0, so dk/dt=0. This allows you to substitute k(g)g for a and obtain k=1/3, a constant. So it turns out that k is constant even if g varies.
 
I see what you mean
Since the first derivative of g is zero,it implies g is a constant
And we already have da/dt=0 from the problem statement
So this would force dk/dt=0 meaning k would be a constant
Thanks a lot for your help

UchihaClan13
 

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