News Is Fox News Fair and balanced?

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Good humour being used to make legitimate points? Keep up the good work, I say!



Well, if you pressed him on the issue, he would probably say that he realizes that the Canucks have other uniforms as well.

But is that an important issue. He was making a joke using a visible stereotype. People making jokes usually do that.

I love how the majority of the conservative bashing has centered on what people are saying in their comedy routines!
If it's a comedy routine, quit calling it news. It isn't news and portraying "conservative commentary" as "fair and balanced news" exposes the right wing for the fraud which it has become. Keep up the little "comedy routine" - seriously. It gives the Democratic Party more votes.
 
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If it's a comedy routine, quit calling it news. It isn't news and portraying "conservative commentary" as "fair and balanced news" exposes the right wing for the fraud which it has become. Keep up the little "comedy routine" - seriously. It gives the Democratic Party more votes.
Excuse me?

It was a comedy segment. Did you watch the segment? Did you read the apology?

Would you, you = mgt, care to take the "News channel challenge" ?
 

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If it's a comedy routine, quit calling it news.
Agreed, and even as comedy it sucked. It wasn't even vaguely funny. The nearest thing that I can compare it to was 'Seinfeld'; just a bunch of ignorant ***holes sitting around trying to be clever.
And before anyone can accuse me of being overly protective of the Horsemen, I loved the Dudley Doright cartoons.
 
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Agreed, and even as comedy it sucked. It wasn't even vaguely funny. The nearest thing that I can compare it to was 'Seinfeld'; just a bunch of ignorant ***holes sitting around trying to be clever.
And before anyone can accuse me of being overly protective of the Horsemen, I loved the Dudley Doright cartoons.
It was HILARIOUS!

and it was a comedy segment.

Once again, only certain types of humor are allowed.

This is just like Columbia university, where everyone believes in free speech, unless the free speech is something they don't like.
 

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It was HILARIOUS!
You have got to be kidding. People with your sense of humour are probably why Seinfeld stayed on the air for more than one episode. Let me guess; your favourite meal is squirrel pie with possum gravy. :rolleyes:
 
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You have got to be kidding. People with your sense of humour are probably why Seinfeld stayed on the air for more than one episode. Let me guess; your favourite meal is squirrel pie with possum gravy. :rolleyes:
The humor on the daily show is FAR closer to that portrayed on Seinfeld.
 

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The humor on the daily show is FAR closer to that portrayed on Seinfeld.
With the notable exception that 'Daily' is clever and funny while 'Seinfeld' wasn't.
 
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With the notable exception that 'Daily' is clever and funny while 'Seinfeld' wasn't.
Quality of humor content is the same, political bias is more emphasized with the daily show, leading to your acceptance of this the daily shows humor.

Note that Seinfeld was situated in New York....

and we know how New York voted in the last few elections.

Therefore... it is obvious that Democrats all like Seinfeld!

:)
 
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The thread is about Fox but you are welcome to illustrate the bias in other media outlets.

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These are parts one and two.
 
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With the notable exception that 'Daily' is clever and funny while 'Seinfeld' wasn't.
Maybe Stewart use to be funny. Now he's mostly a sanctimonious lecturer hiding behind comedy. Worse, Stewart knows many people are using his show as a news source, but he continues to relieve himself from the usual news source criticisms by running the laugh track (and his audience is a laugh track). Leno, e.g., is a comedian that does political jokes, equal opportunity barbs. Stewart's a lecturer on an inexplicably criticism free gig.
 
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Maybe Stewart use to be funny. Now he's mostly a sanctimonious lecturer hiding behind comedy. Worse, Stewart knows many people are using his show as a news source, but he continues to relieve himself from the usual news source criticisms by running the laugh track (and his audience is a laugh track). Leno, e.g., is a comedian that does political jokes, equal opportunity barbs. Stewart's a lecturer on an inexplicably criticism free gig.
Stewart constantly says himself he is not a news sources, and that people should not use him for news.
 

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The thread is about Fox but you are welcome to illustrate the bias in other media outlets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rqdtZlec0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXJIV4f4ZQ0

These are parts one and two.
Thanks for the links. Forget Fair and Balanced. Apparently the Fox motto is a lie told often enough can pass as journalism?

Funny how Roger Ailes approach at Fox sounds so much like what went on in Citizen Cane.
 
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Speaking of classics relevant today:

 
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Quality of humor content is the same, political bias is more emphasized with the daily show, leading to your acceptance of this the daily shows humor.

Note that Seinfeld was situated in New York....

and we know how New York voted in the last few elections.

Therefore... it is obvious that Democrats all like Seinfeld!


:)
.......?
 

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Maybe Stewart use to be funny. Now he's mostly a sanctimonious lecturer hiding behind comedy. Worse, Stewart knows many people are using his show as a news source, but he continues to relieve himself from the usual news source criticisms by running the laugh track (and his audience is a laugh track). Leno, e.g., is a comedian that does political jokes, equal opportunity barbs. Stewart's a lecturer on an inexplicably criticism free gig.
You and I probably agree that infotainment is a bad thing because it blurs the line between news and gibberish. However, while Stewart may be doing real news and commentary under the guise of comedy, Fox is a tabloid masquerading as a news agency, which is far more dangerous.
 
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Did anyone stop the video to read the whole text of the memos shown with sections highlighted. What was left out changes the meaning of the memos considerably. For instance the one about the prison in Iraq, photos of the prison and conduct there provoke outrage what was left out was the statement "and rightly so". The memo went to ask the question, where is the outrage when the terrorists abuse or torture one of their captives. Further, I wouldn't consider a group of disgruntaled ex-employees reliable sources. I am sure that you are all aware of what can be done with a statement taken out of context.

In one of the previous comments someone made the remark about you all being scientists, well take the statement "Fox News Lies" and subject it to the same scientific scrutiny that you would apply to any other "theory". Here is the specific statement made by (name the commentator) and here is the documented fact that disproves the statement.

What I can't understand is why Fox News causes the liberal left to froth at the mouth and run in circles snapping at their rear ends. Why don't they just change the channel and drink the kool aid that is passing for news on the networks.:tongue:
 
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Did anyone stop the video to read the whole text of the memos shown with sections highlighted. What was left out changes the meaning of the memos considerably. For instance the one about the prison in Iraq, photos of the prison and conduct there provoke outrage what was left out was the statement "and rightly so". The memo went to ask the question, where is the outrage when the terrorists abuse or torture one of their captives. Further, I wouldn't consider a group of disgruntaled ex-employees reliable sources. I am sure that you are all aware of what can be done with a statement taken out of context.

In one of the previous comments someone made the remark about you all being scientists, well take the statement "Fox News Lies" and subject it to the same scientific scrutiny that you would apply to any other "theory". Here is the specific statement made by (name the commentator) and here is the documented fact that disproves the statement.

What I can't understand is why Fox News causes the liberal left to froth at the mouth and run in circles snapping at their rear ends. Why don't they just change the channel and drink the kool aid that is passing for news on the networks.:tongue:
Funny how I've noticed conservatives love to use the word kool aid, never stopping to realize the kind of nonsense they are spoon fed from sources like Faux News. Sorry, the conservatives drink just as potent a kool aid, if not worse.

You really don't need to see much more of that ranting raving lunatic Bill O'Foolery to know he's a clown. He always yells at his guests. He has no class.
 

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What I can't understand is why Fox News causes the liberal left to froth at the mouth and ...
Who's frothing at the mouth? It's pretty clear that Fox distorts the News to be supportive of conservative propaganda and talking points.

The fact that they would apparently use deceit and intimidation I'd say unfortunately leaves them acting more like fascists, than anything that might mirror American ideals or values for truth, as they would hypocritically claim.
 

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You really don't need to see much more of that ranting raving lunatic Bill O'Foolery to know he's a clown. He always yells at his guests. He has no class.
It's too painful to watch that creep. When he is wrong, he digs his heels in, shouts over his guests, and even resorts to having the producer cut the guest's mic. He is incapable of critical reasoning, and uses bullying tactics to proclaim himself right when he is absolutely wrong. The people that cheer on fools like him are not "conservatives" - they are sheep who have to get their talking points from blowhards instead of thinking things through.

I'm with Ivan. I became a Democrat in response to Nixon's excesses, but re-joined the Republican fold to support Reagan. Worst vote I ever cast. He was a useful tool for the neocons like Ailes, and the "conservative" wing of the Republican party has since evaporated. What kind of conservative would start unnecessary wars, hand out fat no-bid contacts to his cronies, and in general act as if the President has the powers of a monarchy? I no longer trust either party, and have been registered as an Independent for many years. Where are the real conservatives like Bill Buckley, Barry Goldwater, etc? We could use some rational adults running the show - people who are driven by ideas and possibilities for the common good and not by a failed ideology.
 
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Who's frothing at the mouth? It's pretty clear that Fox distorts the News to be supportive of conservative propaganda and talking points.

The fact that they would apparently use deceit and intimidation I'd say unfortunately leaves them acting more like fascists, than anything that might mirror American ideals or values for truth, as they would hypocritically claim.
Yeah, let's say you are absolutely correct. So what? Turn the channel. If there is something better to watch then everyone turns the channel to that. Until then, it's Fox.
 
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Yeah, let's say you are absolutely correct. So what? Turn the channel. If there is something better to watch then everyone turns the channel to that. Until then, it's Fox.
:bugeye: Why would you willingly watch something that feeds you propoganda that panders to your preconcieved notions?
 
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Funny I have noticed that whenever liberals are stumped for an answer they start playing symantics i.e. my remark about cool aid or if they can't refute the message they attack the messenger. Once again if there are lies there, document them with facts.

The fact that you don't like O'Riely or anyone elses methods or tactics don't make them a liar. If he is lying it should be fairly easy to document. go for it.
 
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Funny I have noticed that whenever liberals are stumped for an answer they start playing symantics i.e. my remark about cool aid or if they can't refute the message they attack the messenger. Once again if there are lies there, document them with facts.

The fact that you don't like O'Riely or anyone elses methods or tactics don't make them a liar. If he is lying it should be fairly easy to document. go for it.
I actually am able to use my brain to discern crap when I hear it. You should try it sometime.

In the meantime, I would recommend a real news source. Try it, you might like it:

www.charlierose.com

They use big words and don't talk down to you. You actually get to hear all sides of the argument and form your own opinion. Imagine that.... :smile:

Buy hey, if you think someone shouting like a lunatic is "Fair and Balanced" you'll believe anything. Drink up.
 
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:bugeye: Why would you willingly watch something that feeds you propoganda that panders to your preconcieved notions?
I don't watch it.
 

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