Is Intrinsic Angular Momentum a Valid Term for Classical Rotation?

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The discussion centers on whether the term "intrinsic angular momentum" is appropriate for the I*W component of angular momentum, where I is the inertia tensor and W is angular velocity. Participants note that while some textbooks, like Roy Featherstone's, use "intrinsic" to describe this term, it is often associated with quantum mechanical spin rather than classical rotation. There is a debate about finding a suitable name for I*W, with suggestions including "spin angular momentum" or simply "spin," though these terms also have quantum connotations. Critics argue against the use of "intrinsic angular momentum," highlighting the need for clarity in terminology. The conversation emphasizes the importance of naming conventions in physics to avoid confusion.
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Hi All,

According to some textbook, angular momentum can be represented as follows;

L = rxP + I*W

r is position from the origin, P is translational momentum, I is inertia tensor and W is angular velocity. Is it possible to call I*W part as intrinsic angular momentum?

Thanks
 
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Hi Barkan! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)
Barkan said:
L = rxP + I*W

r is position from the origin, P is translational momentum, I is inertia tensor and W is angular velocity. Is it possible to call I*W part as intrinsic angular momentum?

(where r is the position of the centre of mass, and I is the tensor about the centre of mass?)

That's what I'd call it :smile: … but I don't know whether it's the accepted name.
 
I think "intrinsic angular momentum" just refers to quantum mechanical spin, not classical rotation.
 
yes tiny, symbols are referring the way you define.

some people were criticizing me for using this term. the problem is how i am supposed to name I*W then? It is not 'angular momentum' because the term angular momentum includes other terms as written above. roy featherstone refers it as 'intrinsic' in his rigid body dynamics algorithm textbook.

any good ideas to name 'I*W' term?
 
Meir Achuz said:
I think "intrinsic angular momentum" just refers to quantum mechanical spin, not classical rotation.
Barkan said:
some people were criticizing me for using this term.

Meir and those people have a good point.

However, there ought to be a name for it, and "intrinsic angular momentum" does seem apt.

The alternative is "spin angular momentum" or just "spin" (with the other component being "orbital angular momentum") … but "spin" also could be said to refer to quantum mechanical spin. :confused:
… roy featherstone refers it as 'intrinsic' in his rigid body dynamics algorithm textbook.

I didn't know that … maybe it'll catch on? :smile:
 
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